Is it on US1? I would expect the US1 invoice run to get finalized later today. Some invoices like yours get finalized automatically but other invoices will need to get checked by out accounting team before running the final command.
It’s on EU1, and this post has at least 20 characters
I thought for a moment that might be a bug and asked around. Turns out EU1 and AP1 are also waiting for the final green light. I hope we will get it today.
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What does “prepay via a partner” mean? There’s an “add funds” button in billing settings, I’m able to pay an arbitrary cash amount into account funds. This seems to not have a minimum at this point. If $10 is prepaid into account funds in one transaction here, will that cause invoices to still be increased to the $5 minimum each month (from Sep onward), or will the $5 minimum no longer apply as the only cash transaction was >$5?
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It’s when you register an account with a partner code, for example like IX+Storj and subscribed to the IX Starter Package, which exactly the prepaid model.
“Add funds” option doesn’t give an exemption from the minimum fee, only STORJ tokens.
It’s not an additional fee, it’s more like a rounding. If your usage is greater than zero, but the invoice sum less than $5, it will be $5. If it’s greater or equal than $5, the invoice will not be changed.
That is daft. If it was for fiat transaction fees, that’s maybe understandable, because there are ways to accommodate a provider needing to offset transaction fees, such as enforcing a minimum transaction amount. Every small business in my local area does this, if your purchase is less than $5 there’s either a 1% fee or a 10c fee, because the financial institution imposes it so they pass it on. But this (specifically this new policy’s effect, i’m applying no moral judgement to any singular person) is just greedy.
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Costs includes not only processing fee of the payment provider, but also other costs related to the account and stored data.
All reasons are described in the first post, please read it.
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I’ve read it a few times and am aware of the changes being implemented starting in September. I have a couple issues with it beyond what I’ve said above:
That’s a bug/loophole in your billing that can be patched. Backblaze advertised that their Cloudflare peering was free for customers, but it wasn’t really, the fees just went from download cost to a different request class. And that’s fine. If they’re not paying for requests for some reason, or if they’re abusing the S3 gateway, or if web hosting via a bucket costs more than the pure download cost, whatever the behind-the-scenes explanation for this: introduce billing for that, patch that bug.
Introducing a minimum amount that all invoices are rounded up to is sidestepping the issue. What happens when customers on a $5 bill are actually using $10 of resources? Or actually using $100 of resources?
Then how does increasing it to $5 affect anything? You might as well raise the minimum to $50 a month, and/or change your business model to only sell to other businesses, requiring proof that a customer’s usage of the service will be economically viable for Storj, and/or pointing potential small customers to resellers/other services like B2 because Storj is objectively not the best fit for some use cases. These would be relatively acceptable options.
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I’ve inferred from these discussions that such small users, with/without billing issues, do not look good (from their POV) on some number that investors look at. It achieves shoving these people out the door without explicitly saying they are unwelcome.
They threw STORJ payers a bone because crypto is still a hurdle to overcome for the typical user. Notice they still have to pay gas fees to collect the STORJ.
It will start in August. Please don’t mix up the time the invoice gets created and the timespan it covers.
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EU1, still can’t delete account.
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Agree. I deleted all access keys and buckets before the end of June. The June invoice was issued but I am still unable to delete the final project, before deleting the account…
@heunland - tagging you for the spelling mistake highlighted in the image above.
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Please file a support ticket if you are having issues deleting your account.
We have already informed the dev team about the typo, thanks!
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PR is already merged.
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Just managed to delete my account on EU1.
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today I see a very deep nose dive on my Storj node, then I check the forum. Very nice guys. I think I may go off too as a SNO.
Jesus Christ, is it impossible for me to be gone on holidays for two weeks without having this company disintegrate into several fractions going in different directions?
$StorjLads, please. When you take decisions, sleep a day or two on them before posting them. And when you do, is Friday afternoon really the correct time to do so? Last time there was townhall, it was announced after it was already held.
The very last day of May, this change is then pushed through, worded in a way where it seems as though it would take effect the first of June, and then -the very next day- it’s rolled back, then changed, and now it seems as though it’s effectively cancelled for users paying with StorJ.
Where is the company I know? Was I duped, or did it start deconstructing once mr. Winegar took over the reins?
Please don’t let the last few strings of mishaps be the first steps on the path to something bad, and please let them be human errors as the new management spends their first 6 months getting known with all areas of the company.
When the changes to the payouts were made, at least it felt like my opinion mattered when you made the post announcing the changes before they happened.
I truely believe in StorJ.
I love the customer-first approach, I love being able to provide an (performant!) alternative to the large tech companies, and I love getting paid for my hobby. Going by what is publicly available, the next year is going to be extremely interesting. After the unpaid data has been cleaned up, I’m seeing growth on my nodes again, and the future looks bright from my outlook.
Please don’t kill it by alienating 80% of your userbase.
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You talk like they really care. Lol.
I think they do.
Not caring about your users is simply a bad business decision, and you have to be Broadcom big for it to work. I think StorJlads are in a period where multiple acquisitions, new business areas, customers and opportunities clouds the vision of who they were with the vision of what they might be.
I’m all for the company changing, maturing and evolving. But that can only be done on the stepping stones of what it is now, and is not done by throwing what’s here now away.
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