# Announcement: Changes to node payout rates as of December 1st 2023 (Open for comment)

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**Created:** [October 25, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-changes-to-node-payout-rates-as-of-december-1st-2023-open-for-comment/24124 "2023-10-25T22:02:19Z")\
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> [@Bryanm](#):
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> Because there is a risk some nodes could leave or fail, we actually store closer to 2.7 TB (80/29 = 2.758…).

But this is not true, the effective expansion rate is lower.

According to [Grafana](https://storjstats.info/d/storj/storj-network-statistics?orgId=1) the median number of pieces stored is usually around 65 or so. Little higher right now, for some reason.

Now I’m assuming the mean is close to the median, the expansion rate is around 65/29=2,2 or so.

With a little tuning it should be possible to get this down to around 2 without risk to customer data, although I have to admit I haven’t done this calculation.

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