# Announcement: Storj to shut down europe-north-1 and us2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** storj-payouts\ **Created:** [June 14, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956 "2023-06-14T22:41:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![arrogantrabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/arrogantrabbit/32/11200_2.png) [@arrogantrabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/arrogantrabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:03am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/21 "2023-06-17T07:03:41Z")
> [@JoshieGarza](#): > > Can you confirm that Storj labs will delete it? No, I cannot see the future, but I don’t have reasons to believe that this won’t be handled properly. It won’t make sense to leave data wasting space on storage nodes, would it? ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:17am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/22 "2023-06-17T07:17:09Z")
I would expect that delete messages will not be sent to storagenodes, at least it was so when the Stefanbenten satellite was decommissioned. It’s quietly expensive and resource consuming operation. The best case is to send several bloom filters to allow to remove this data by the garbage collector. But you know - I’m better to remove it myself than using a “lazy” garbage collector (for weeks likely). ---
**Author:** ![arrogantrabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/arrogantrabbit/32/11200_2.png) [@arrogantrabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/arrogantrabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/23 "2023-06-17T07:29:07Z")
Oh absolutely, there is no reason to actively delete chunks from satellites, it’s literally wasted efforts. But there shall be some ways for storage nodes to prune orphaned data – I thought garbage collection could do/does this for removed satellites. > [@Alexey](#): > > I’m better to remove it myself than using a “lazy” garbage collector (for weeks likely). I’m the opposite. I’d rather let software figure it out than having to mess with internals manually risking breaking things. It’s in the STORJ’s interest to avoid wasting space on nodes with garbage data, so I trust it will be done properly. For me as a storage node operator it makes no difference; it’s node’s internal business. ---
**Author:** ![nerdatwork](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/nerdatwork/32/1135_2.png) [@nerdatwork](https://forum.storj.io/u/nerdatwork)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/24 "2023-06-17T10:33:28Z")
> [@Alexey](#): > > But you know - I’m better to remove it myself than using a “lazy” garbage collector (for weeks likely). When you delete millions of small files manually, in my experience (DQed satellite), Windows explorer is frozen. Disk utilization is at 100%. Even calculating folder size takes forever with usual process. There is zero progress shown for deletion unlike usual Windows delete. **This creates a fear that disk might not be responding to Audits or there could be Audit failures due to timeouts.** The only way I could delete DQed data was to delete 5 to 10 folders at a time, wait for it to finish then select next batch of folders. Please ❤ this post if you would like node software to handle the deletion. ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/25 "2023-06-17T11:05:54Z")
> [@nerdatwork](#): > > Windows explorer is frozen. Disk utilization is at 100%. Do not use a Windows Explorer for that 🙂 It’s better to use a CLI, or Wsl2 For honestly `rm -rf /mnt/x/storagenode2/storage/blobs/pmw6tvzmf2jv6giyybmmvl4o2ahqlaldsaeha4yx74n5aaaaaaaa` from wls2 was much faster than `rm -Recurse -Force x:\storagenode2\storage\blobs\pmw6tvzmf2jv6giyybmmvl4o2ahqlaldsaeha4yx74n5aaaaaaaa` from PowerShell, I do not know why ---
**Author:** ![Bivvo](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/bivvo/32/7825_2.png) [@Bivvo](https://forum.storj.io/u/Bivvo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/26 "2023-06-17T12:10:02Z")
> [@Toyoo](#): > > Oh, heh, I’d prefer to run the delete manually. The way a node deletes a file makes multiple times the I/O necessary, wasteful. Me, too. Can it be deleted already? Is there anything to take into consideration besides just deleting directories? GE the satellites or so? ---
**Author:** ![nerdatwork](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/nerdatwork/32/1135_2.png) [@nerdatwork](https://forum.storj.io/u/nerdatwork)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/27 "2023-06-17T12:18:15Z")
> [@Bivvo](#): > > Can it be deleted already? Is there anything to take into consideration besides just deleting directories? GE the satellites or so? As already stated in the first post > [@Bryanm](#): > > We are still working through the exact decommissioning process and do not require any action from SNOs at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Toyoo](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/toyoo/32/1126_2.png) [@Toyoo](https://forum.storj.io/u/Toyoo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/28 "2023-06-17T14:59:13Z")
> [@Bivvo](#): > > Is there anything to take into consideration besides just deleting directories? Sending the heldback amount and removing data from databases like pieceexpiration.db. ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/29 "2023-06-18T07:37:50Z")
> [@arrogantrabbit](#): > > I thought garbage collection could do/does this for removed satellites. For that you need bloom filters sent by the satellite. So you need the satellite to still exist. It’s not too complicated to do clean up afterwards, so at this point I suggest we just wait and see what Storj Labs comes up with. I’m sure they will figure something out or provide instructions. If not, I will, after the satellites have been decommissioned. ---
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/30 "2023-06-21T20:27:27Z")
I GE both sats, just to end the suspense. I have a question: why the exited sats still show scores in dashboard? Shouldn’t display an OFF or 0, or something? ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/31 "2023-06-22T04:13:33Z")
This is not implemented, satellites and scores will be here until you remove these satellites from the trusted list or add to an exclusion list. ---
**Author:** ![JDA](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jda/32/1128_2.png) [@JDA](https://forum.storj.io/u/JDA)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/32 "2023-06-30T08:34:27Z")
Has the files deletion started? Huge spike in deletion on some of my nodes ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/33 "2023-06-30T08:36:37Z")
You can check, what satellite is invoked deletion in your logs. ---
**Author:** ![JDA](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jda/32/1128_2.png) [@JDA](https://forum.storj.io/u/JDA)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/34 "2023-06-30T08:48:30Z")
1TB in trash from “[12rfG3sh9NCWiX3ivPjq2HtdLmbqCrvHVEzJubnzFzosMuawymB@europe-north-1.tardigrade.io](mailto:12rfG3sh9NCWiX3ivPjq2HtdLmbqCrvHVEzJubnzFzosMuawymB@europe-north-1.tardigrade.io)” in the past 48h on a 15TB old node ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/35 "2023-06-30T08:55:00Z")
Perhaps related to this announcement. ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 9:16am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/36 "2023-06-30T09:16:45Z")
Yep, I have 1.3TB trash on a 23TB node. Looks like clean up has started. Saves me from having to expand soon, I guess. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![striker43](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/striker43/32/1135_2.png) [@striker43](https://forum.storj.io/u/striker43)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/37 "2023-06-30T09:39:54Z")
![Bildschirmfoto 2023-06-30 um 11.39.43](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/2X/3/3488cdc369c0f852da8337c161dc60bda961adb6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JDA](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jda/32/1128_2.png) [@JDA](https://forum.storj.io/u/JDA)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/38 "2023-06-30T09:41:49Z")
> [@Bryanm](#): > > We will be in touch **with a more detailed explanation of the process** and will let you all know what if any actions need to be taken. Looks like someone push the trigger and forgot about this part 🙂 Personally I’m happy with the deletion of those test data. ---
**Author:** ![heunland](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/heunland/32/6076_2.png) [@heunland](https://forum.storj.io/u/heunland)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/39 "2023-06-30T11:16:30Z")
It was already announced in the QA section of [this post](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-changes-to-storj-node-payouts/22338/3) close to the end. ---
**Author:** ![JDA](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jda/32/1128_2.png) [@JDA](https://forum.storj.io/u/JDA)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956/40 "2023-06-30T11:34:37Z")
I read this post a few days ago, and i though they will annonce a schedule about deletion also, not just the shutdown. But anyway it as started and it’s as planned 🙂 [Previous page](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.storj.io/t/announcement-storj-to-shut-down-europe-north-1-and-us2/22956.md?page=3)