# Fraud with Seagate hard disks **URL:** \ **Category:** Node Operators\ **Tags:** hardware\ **Created:** [February 17, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309 "2025-02-17T21:03:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LxdrJ](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/lxdrj/32/1135_2.png) [@LxdrJ](https://forum.storj.io/u/LxdrJ)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/1 "2025-02-17T21:03:38Z")
Hi guys, [https://heise.de/-10259237](https://heise.de/-10259237) guess you heard about Seagate fraud where several retailers sold used HDD mostly EXOS as new, apparently you can check this with smartmontools version 7.4 or higher > **[GitHub - gamestailer94/farm-check](https://github.com/gamestailer94/farm-check)** > > Contribute to gamestailer94/farm-check development by creating an account on GitHub. Actually I have recertified EXOS but this sounds so fishy my result says it is passed but how should I know if its true, my recertified had reset anyways: > === Checking device: /dev/sda === > SMART: 3088 > FARM: 3088 > RESULT: PASS What do you think about this? ---
**Author:** ![PieceKeeper](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/piecekeeper/32/1125_2.png) [@PieceKeeper](https://forum.storj.io/u/PieceKeeper)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/2 "2025-02-17T21:32:49Z")
An easy check is using sudo smartctl -l farm /dev/sdX Look for “Power on Hours”. The example below was bought from a danish web shop as new. But the farm data shows almost 3 years of use. smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86\_64-linux-6.8.0-52-generic] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, [www.smartmontools.org](http://www.smartmontools.org) Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6) FARM Log Page 0: Log Header FARM Log Version: 3.7 Pages Supported: 6 Log Size: 98304 Page Size: 16384 Heads Supported: 24 Number of Copies: 0 Reason for Frame Capture: 0 FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information Serial Number: ZL2HZDYZ World Wide Name: 0x5000c500db6ca3ab Device Interface: SATA Device Capacity in Sectors: 31251759104 Physical Sector Size: 4096 Logical Sector Size: 512 Device Buffer Size: 268435456 Number of Heads: 18 Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm Firmware Rev: SN03 ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01621 ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040 Power on Hours: 24267 Spindle Power on Hours: 0 Head Flight Hours: 0 Head Load Events: 1 Power Cycle Count: 8 Hardware Reset Count: 0 Spin-up Time: 0 ms ---
**Author:** ![LxdrJ](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/lxdrj/32/1135_2.png) [@LxdrJ](https://forum.storj.io/u/LxdrJ)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/3 "2025-02-17T22:18:25Z")
Ubuntu 22 is still running 7.2 🫠 ---
**Author:** ![PieceKeeper](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/piecekeeper/32/1125_2.png) [@PieceKeeper](https://forum.storj.io/u/PieceKeeper)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/4 "2025-02-17T22:30:07Z")
You could probably use a live CD with debian and install smartmontools there sudo apt install smartmontools ---
**Author:** ![LxdrJ](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/lxdrj/32/1135_2.png) [@LxdrJ](https://forum.storj.io/u/LxdrJ)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/5 "2025-02-18T06:10:28Z")
I did with container alpine has 7.4 ☺ docker run -itd --rm --privileged -v /dev:/dev --name alp alpine docker exec -it alp sh apk add smartmontools ---
**Author:** ![PieceKeeper](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/piecekeeper/32/1125_2.png) [@PieceKeeper](https://forum.storj.io/u/PieceKeeper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 6:14am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/6 "2025-02-18T06:14:10Z")
Nice 👍 🙂 I can use that. I have a ubuntu server as well, with too low version of smartmontools ---
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 6:45am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/7 "2025-02-18T06:45:13Z")
You can also use seatools from Seagate. You can replace the smartmontools with the last version on their bootable stick. ---
**Author:** ![PieceKeeper](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/piecekeeper/32/1125_2.png) [@PieceKeeper](https://forum.storj.io/u/PieceKeeper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 7:06am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/8 "2025-02-18T07:06:13Z")
So, it is easy to detect on Seagate hard disks. I wonder how common this kind of fraud is with WD and Toshiba drives. ---
**Author:** ![donald.m.motsinger](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/donald.m.motsinger/32/71_2.png) [@donald.m.motsinger](https://forum.storj.io/u/donald.m.motsinger)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/fraud-with-seagate-hard-disks/29309/9 "2025-02-18T12:39:08Z")
> [@LxdrJ](#): > > docker exec -it alpine sh docker exec -it alp sh