# One Petabyte lying around

**URL:** <https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819>\
**Category:** Node Operators\
**Created:** [December 26, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819 "2022-12-26T23:13:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![peter\_linder](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/peter_linder/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@peter\_linder](https://forum.storj.io/u/peter_linder)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/21 "2022-12-29T21:02:16Z")

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But with RAID6, the equivalent of two drives never stored any useful data to begin with. It would be better to put the disk space to use rather than waste it on parity.

Even if (when!) a drive later fails, the total stored amount afterwards is still higher. This assumes of course enough /24’s to actively fill all nodes.

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**Author:** ![Alastran](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/alastran/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@Alastran](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alastran)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/22 "2022-12-29T21:05:01Z")

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This is true, I had a negative experience when building a RAID array in this format.

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**Author:** ![Milo123459](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/milo123459/32/7831_2.png) [@Milo123459](https://forum.storj.io/u/Milo123459)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/23 "2022-12-29T21:56:00Z")

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Sorry - how many nodes can you run on one IP? I’m currently running 2 on the same IP and it works fine. Want to make sure I’m not breaking any rules.

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**Author:** ![tyl3r](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/tyl3r/32/1138_2.png) [@tyl3r](https://forum.storj.io/u/tyl3r)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/24 "2022-12-29T22:11:48Z")

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If you go from the ToS then no.

> **[Node Operator Terms & Conditions](https://www.storj.io/node-operator-terms-conditions)**

> Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you will not:  
> Operate more than one (1) Storage Node behind the same IP address

but if you host more storage nodes, all behind the same /24 subnet are treated as one

> [@Storage nodes on the same subnet (different public IP's)](https://forum.storj.io/t/storage-nodes-on-the-same-subnet-different-public-ips/3476/3):
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> Hello @polo, Welcome to the forum! All nodes behind the /24 subnet of the public IPs will be treated as a one node for uploads and downloads, but as a separate for audits and uptime checks. So, both your nodes will share the same amount of traffic as only one node. Since your nodes are new, they are in the vetting process. They will receive only 5% of potential traffic in total until got vetted. To be vetted on a one satellite, they should pass 100 audits from it. For the one node it usuall…

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**Author:** ![Milo123459](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/milo123459/32/7831_2.png) [@Milo123459](https://forum.storj.io/u/Milo123459)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/25 "2022-12-29T22:38:07Z")

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So theoretically, I can run as many nodes as I want, and it’s not making me earn less?

Another question, how can I check the process on the vetting of my nodes? My main idea is to get all my drives running on one RPI (I currently have 2 drives, both very new) to make it so I don’t need multiple IPs. Is this possible?

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**Author:** ![peter\_linder](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/peter_linder/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@peter\_linder](https://forum.storj.io/u/peter_linder)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/26 "2022-12-29T22:50:33Z")

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> [@Milo123459](#):
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> So theoretically, I can run as many nodes as I want, and it’s not making me earn less?

Yes, but also not more.

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**Author:** ![tyl3r](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/tyl3r/32/1138_2.png) [@tyl3r](https://forum.storj.io/u/tyl3r)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/27 "2022-12-29T22:56:06Z")

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> [@Milo123459](#):
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> and it’s not making me earn less

Yes, you can run as many nodes without making less. BUT your vetting takes longer.  
Example:  
If 1 node takes 1 Month to run through the vetting process, 3 nodes take 3 Months to finish the process.

I would recommend setting up one node, getting that vetted and then starting another node one the first one reaches 100%

You won’t get more storage filled if you have 5 nodes running at the same time. As long as they are in the same /24 Subnet they all get the same traffic. Thus resulting in higher power bills if one of the nodes isn’t used to full potential.

The checker for vetting process you requested:

> [@Earnings calculator (Detailed earnings info and health status of your node, including vetting progress and garbage collection status)](https://forum.storj.io/t/earnings-calculator-update-2022-12-08-v12-3-0-now-compatible-with-node-version-1-62-detailed-earnings-info-and-health-status-of-your-node-including-vetting-progress/1794):
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> Latest version @ 2025-12-18: v14.3.0 - Consider minimum vetting time for vetting progress I made this calculator to provide payout information and be used as an extension of the dashboard functionality already provided by Storj. Storj Earnings Calculator Earnings calculation script for Storj storagenodes Prerequisites Python is required to run this script. This script was tested on Windows 10 and Linux, with Python 3.7. Other OS’s and versions will likely also work. Warning If you are runnin…

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> [@Milo123459](#):
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> idea is to get all my drives running on one RPI

The idea itself isn’t wrong, but if your Pi runs into an error all nodes go down, depending on the amount of storage you have, it’s probably better to split up the risk, but there are Pi’s out there running such jobs

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**Author:** ![Milo123459](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/milo123459/32/7831_2.png) [@Milo123459](https://forum.storj.io/u/Milo123459)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/28 "2022-12-29T22:58:15Z")

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Thank you for the information! I’ve got 2 running right now, and before I add any more I will wait until they’re vetted.

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**Author:** ![Milo123459](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/milo123459/32/7831_2.png) [@Milo123459](https://forum.storj.io/u/Milo123459)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/29 "2022-12-29T23:06:03Z")

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Yeah, that’s a good idea. Just like keeping everything in one place.

Is there a good way to get notifications if my node goes down? Maybe via email?

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**Author:** ![tyl3r](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/tyl3r/32/1138_2.png) [@tyl3r](https://forum.storj.io/u/tyl3r)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/30 "2022-12-29T23:10:08Z")

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I personally run a docker container with [uptime kuma](https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma)  
it’s an open source uptime tool that checkes if everything you connect is running and if not, gives you the options to get notifications via email, push notifications, telegram bot or even discord.

I bet there are better options related to storj you’ll find in the forum, I’ll have a quick look and text them in here 🙂

edit: [Storage Node uptime script for notifing you when your node is down (Linux)](https://forum.storj.io/t/storage-node-uptime-script-for-notifing-you-when-your-node-is-down-linux/8661)

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maybe even better (don’t know)

> [@Howto: storage node health check \> discord + email alerting script](https://forum.storj.io/t/howto-storage-node-health-check-discord-email-alerting-script/16461):
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> Hi there, based on my ideas and findings from one of my previous [posts](https://forum.storj.io/t/logs-how-to-send-relevant-log-messages-to-a-discord-web-hook/16140), I have published my “health check script (linux + macOS)” on [GitHub](https://github.com/bjoerrrn/storj-system-health.sh). partying_face Please feel free to support, subscribe or comment. I’ll release updates soon, in order to make it more self-descriptive and common to use for everyday usage. bulb Target group: docker and linux / macOS users. about this script this linux shell script checks, if a storj node runs into errors and alerts the operator by discord push me…

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**Author:** ![Milo123459](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/milo123459/32/7831_2.png) [@Milo123459](https://forum.storj.io/u/Milo123459)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/31 "2022-12-29T23:11:39Z")

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Thank you! I just had some other questions (sorry!)

I presume running multiple-nodes distributes the traffic evenly among the nodes. Just another thing, how long does 1 audit take to happen? I’ve been running my nodes for 2 days and neither have any audits on any satellites.

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**Author:** ![peter\_linder](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/peter_linder/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@peter\_linder](https://forum.storj.io/u/peter_linder)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/32 "2022-12-29T23:17:46Z")

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The amount of audits is a linear function of how much data you have, with some tuning for new nodes to make vetting take about a month.

Leave it for a few weeks to acumulate more data, and audits will start appearing.

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**Author:** ![tyl3r](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/tyl3r/32/1138_2.png) [@tyl3r](https://forum.storj.io/u/tyl3r)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/33 "2022-12-29T23:18:11Z")

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Vetting takes 100 audits / satellite I have very different numbers  
In the beginning on one of my satellites I had 4 audits while other satellites had 0-1.  
From what I read in the forum vetting takes around 1-2 months.

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**Author:** ![Milo123459](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/milo123459/32/7831_2.png) [@Milo123459](https://forum.storj.io/u/Milo123459)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/34 "2022-12-29T23:23:18Z")

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Thanks for the information. I’ll just leave it and check up on it every now and then.

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**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 6:31am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/35 "2022-12-30T06:31:56Z")

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In the last 2 months, I started 3 nodes, and all got vetted in 3 weeks, on different /24 subnets. But only on the main 3 sats: us1, eu1 and ap1.  
I don’t care about the other 3, because they traffic test data. The main 3 traffic customer data. Use the earnings.py script mentioned above, made by BS. It will show you all your progress.

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**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/36 "2022-12-30T06:59:55Z")

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If you have too many HDDs and not enough IPs, don’t waste them on RAIDs. You will pay twice the energy needed for a node. If one fails, you loose that progress, but watching them from time to time you cand anticipate the EoL of that drive and clone it to a new one. And the ingress has increased from year to year. Now is around 6TB/year. Last year was 3TB/year. The trend is very promising. Will fill your new drivers quickly.  
And you have Exos drives, enterprise grade drives. Is just the best drive you can use for Storj. Don’t worry so much.  
The minimum guaranteed life of them is 5 years. I saw many failed nodes on this forum but none of them because of an enterprise grade drive failure. Is a dedicated thread somewhere…  
The main reasons of failure: not using UPS, human error when mantainin RAID arraways, or moving nodes, Raspberrie Pi’s bad USB connection to drives, using general purpose drives.  
My advise is to try avoiding USB conections, reduce your power bill and use UPS. This is a must! Spin no more than 2 nodes per /24 subnet and wait for them to fill to 80-90%, than add more. Use as much RAM memory as you can, 16GB will be best. It helps big time with buffering and caching traffic and filesystem.  
Check the threads: “Tuning the filewalker” and “Synology Diskstation memory upgrade guide” to see what I discovered from using too little memory.  
And you can always use those extra drives for something else like Chia. I don’t know what projects are there and I’m not a fan of Chia. I just consider it a waste of resources and I will not buy drives for that project, but since you already got them…

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**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/37 "2022-12-30T07:20:31Z")

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> [@tyl3r](#):
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> Yea I haven’t really looked into the market yet. But I imagine that high capacity drives with \>17k hours of operation dont sell for that much 😕

They start from 165$ on ebay.

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**Author:** ![Pac](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/pac/32/6053_2.png) [@Pac](https://forum.storj.io/u/Pac)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/one-petabyte-lying-around/20819/38 "2022-12-30T07:47:30Z")

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I feel like you should check the following tool (if you haven’t already) to get a better idea of what to expect behind a /24 subnet:

> [@Realistic earnings estimator](https://forum.storj.io/t/topic/6693/1):
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> The original earnings estimator is no longer online, so I’m altering this suggestion to advocate for the return of a realistic earnings estimator. In the mean time SNOs can use this community version to get a good estimate of the earnings potential. Please be respectful of others using this sheet. If someone else is looking at their results, give them a moment before overwriting their inputs or copy the sheet to your own Google account to fill in your own inputs. The sheet is protected against …

Just so you know 🙂

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