# Payout decreasing every month? **URL:** \ **Category:** Node Operators\ **Tags:** payouts\ **Created:** [July 9, 2021, 9:31am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549 "2021-07-09T09:31:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/24 "2023-07-05T10:15:46Z")
Just enjoy the sunshine and ride the waves… 🕶🦬🌊🏄‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/25 "2023-07-05T10:17:22Z")
Binance suddenly offers 41.21% APR on STORJ tokens… [Earn Storj Rewards | STORJ Staking | Binance](https://www.binance.com/en/earn/storj) I think these rates are dynamic these days though, so this might be really temporary. Aaand, they have blocked redemption of tokens in simple earn… so I can’t sell what I had there … Classy, Binance… 😡 ---
**Author:** ![GiantJack](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/giantjack/32/1122_2.png) [@GiantJack](https://forum.storj.io/u/GiantJack)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/26 "2023-07-05T10:48:06Z")
> [@BrightSilence](#): > > Talking about reopening old discussions. just to clarify it wasnt me who reopend this, but not wanted to make a new thread… > [@BrightSilence](#): > > The only fair way is to use market price. Otherwise you always get complaints when the averaging leads to a lower payout. i guess ur right > [@BrightSilence](#): > > Storj publishes their token flow reports and wallet addresses. Go look for yourself. They don’t do market manipulation. i never said they are doing but it would be suspicious if the price goes down after payment… btw i think if they want to manipulate it would be hard to check all transactions to find some transfers to an exchange… before someone gets this wrong i say again I DO NOT accuse storj of price manipulation… a bit sad that the payout gets lower and lower but still better than nothing > [@BrightSilence](#): > > Somehow people never complain when payouts happen during a low value dip, like last month. again a good point > [@BrightSilence](#): > > Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. true, i was hodling about all storj i got the last 1+ year, sold 600 yesterday and got about 1k left > [@BrightSilence](#): > > Aaand, they have blocked redemption of tokens in simple earn… so I can’t sell what I had there … Classy, Binance… 😡 what a bad joke of Binance ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/27 "2023-07-05T10:55:11Z")
> [@GiantJack](#): > > just to clarify it wasnt me who reopend this, but not wanted to make a new thread… Yeah, I meant starting up discussions around payout timing when there are market peaks. The forum is full of them, but it has been quiet for a while since there haven’t been many lately. It wasn’t necessarily about reopening the thread, but about starting up that topic again. > [@GiantJack](#): > > i never said they are doing but it That was a bit of a knee jerk reaction. See above. 😉 > [@GiantJack](#): > > what a bad joke of Binance I managed to redeem some now and sell, but they made me miss the peak. Really annoying. But yeah, exchanges are kind of known for doing scummy things like that. And there is nothing you can do about it as their terms state that they can do this when there is “High market volatility or high amounts of redemptions”. I’m sure there was, but it does really suck. ---
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/28 "2023-07-05T13:28:26Z")
One could make a link with the huge token transfer from Storj Inc to Binance, a few months back… I don’t want to point fingers and don’t try to imply anything, my trust level regarding Storj is still on the positive side; but… who could profit the most from an upstick like this? The man with the biggest coin bag. Who has the biggest storj bag?.. Storj inc. Again… I’m not pointing fingers, just stating facts. And ofcourse, Binance never had a saint aura shining over it’s head, they always try to profit from whoever falls into their scams. ---
**Author:** ![agente](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/agente/32/1137_2.png) [@agente](https://forum.storj.io/u/agente)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/29 "2023-07-05T14:34:45Z")
Storj does not have extremely high volumes. Total volumes about 800k 24h. With 500k you can move the price easy to +50%. Generic example: Case1: token price 1 usd. No pumping price. Distribute 10.000.000 USD = 10.000.000 token Case2: token price 1 usd. Before distribution pump price to 1.5 buying 0.5mil USD of tokens. Distribute 10.000.000 USD = 6.666.000 token. Case 2 would be the best choice. Waiting the moves for next month distribution ---
**Author:** ![andrew2.hart](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/andrew2.hart/32/6415_2.png) [@andrew2.hart](https://forum.storj.io/u/andrew2.hart)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/30 "2023-07-05T16:34:38Z")
> [@andrew2.hart](#): > > Grave digging this thread to say I feel like I just got overpaid > Is it something wrong with the storj price? I am on zksync era but it isnt there yet so i got paid on zksync lite…how long is the delay between payout and me seeing it? I don’t know. In this case I won but this is why it should be manual withdraw ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/31 "2023-07-06T11:34:07Z")
> [@andrew2.hart](#): > > I feel like I just got overpaid We may have been overpaid a little. I waited until the payout info was reported back to my biggest node. Now I see this. ![image](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/2X/8/8911a8e64c93b9e17a5cca46f875be7025c52e69.png) There is always a small difference, but this is outside of that margin of error. Looking at the data more carefully, it seems we are still paid $10 for repair egress, instead of the $5 and $2.50 it should be. @jtolio is it possible payouts are still using the old $10 value for repair for some reason? These difference match almost exactly with that scenario. ---
**Author:** ![jtolio](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/jtolio/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@jtolio](https://forum.storj.io/u/jtolio)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/32 "2023-07-06T20:06:26Z")
Okay, well, this is a weird thread to discuss this in (as discussed, lol), but you’re right @BrightSilence - it appears we had a configuration rollback unexpectedly. It appears that we spent an extra $4378.71 due to this configuration rollback for the month of June. It was a small enough amount that nothing seemed awry, but your diagnosis is spot on. I’ll go update the payout announcement thread about this. Extra payouts for SNOs! This class of rollback shouldn’t happen again going forward. ---
**Author:** ![andrew2.hart](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/andrew2.hart/32/6415_2.png) [@andrew2.hart](https://forum.storj.io/u/andrew2.hart)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/33 "2023-07-07T15:32:45Z")
Since I was first to notice this ah you can fill in the rest of the joke yourselves ---
**Author:** ![jtolio](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/jtolio/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@jtolio](https://forum.storj.io/u/jtolio)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/34 "2023-07-07T15:51:09Z")
oh I’m sorry, thank you also @andrew2.hart. I poorly skimmed the rest of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![andrew2.hart](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/andrew2.hart/32/6415_2.png) [@andrew2.hart](https://forum.storj.io/u/andrew2.hart)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/35 "2023-07-08T12:01:36Z")
Sheesh! BriSi the bug bounty is pretty poor on this program 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/36 "2023-07-08T12:07:01Z")
i don’t know what you’re talking about. We get to be paid less now that we notified them about it. What more could we possibly want? 😆 ---
**Author:** ![humbfig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/humbfig/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@humbfig](https://forum.storj.io/u/humbfig)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/37 "2023-07-11T13:21:06Z")
You always take storj’s side with the same passion as you criticise binance. You come out as an undercover storjling. I even agree with what you write many times because the accusations are sometimes way out. But you should really play it down if you want to keep the “just another node operator” status. As far as I remember, I never got paid before the 8th. Take a look at the following picture and explain to me why last month I got paid on the 5th: ![Screenshot 2023-07-11 at 14.07.33](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/2X/9/99ba0679de7ec6b0d53297431ac2346d145f9e8b.png) BTW, I was able to redeem my STORJ from flexible earn in binance during the peak. I’m not saying the opposite didn’t happen to you. I was just lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/38 "2023-07-11T13:36:28Z")
For example I was happy that I was paid on 5th because i got money almost before this rise, and got additional 100$ bonus. ---
**Author:** ![humbfig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/humbfig/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@humbfig](https://forum.storj.io/u/humbfig)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/39 "2023-07-11T13:56:37Z")
Another one… At what precise time did you get paid on the 5th before the rise? ![Screenshot 2023-07-11 at 14.56.23](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/2X/7/71b95f43d3b948a35cab226c359dfe49a9a37d4e.png) ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/40 "2023-07-11T14:01:06Z")
> [@humbfig](#): > > But you should really play it down if you want to keep the “just another node operator” status. I don’t need to do anything. That’s what I am. Besides, I criticize Storj when it’s applicable as well. The big difference is that there is no use in trying to be constructive towards Binance. They are not going to care about what a nobody like me has to say. Storj does listen, so yeah, I tend to be more constructive in my criticism. And as for: > [@humbfig](#): > > I never got paid before the 8th In April and June I got paid on the 6th. In May I got paid on the 4th. That’s not taking Storj’s side, those are just facts. So I’m just not sure what you are insinuating here. If you provide some actual evidence that Storj is playing with the market, I’ll be right by your side condemning Storj for it. I just require some evidence before I make that leap. ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/41 "2023-07-11T14:01:31Z")
I got on Zksynk, exact before pump. It toke about 1h to withdraw it, and I sold it almost at the top. ---
**Author:** ![humbfig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/humbfig/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@humbfig](https://forum.storj.io/u/humbfig)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/42 "2023-07-11T14:04:18Z")
The pump started on the 4th. Again, at what precise time did you get paid on the 5th before the rise? ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549/43 "2023-07-11T14:11:05Z")
i found the time stamp of transfer blok Jul-04-2023 01:34:23 PM +UTC but i see that last people on L1 was payd at Jul-05-2023 01:56:59 PM +UTC i think difference is because Zksynk Storj pays all at once in batch, but on L1 they can pay one by one or in small portions batches, with some pause time. So there is the difference in time of payment. [Previous page](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.storj.io/t/payout-decreasing-every-month/14549.md?page=3)