Or have the state invest in storing energy technology and we could sell electricity back to the grid. Solar panel do not die - I’ve seen 50+ years story on reddit… And the possibility of atomic energy go wrong dread me.
Maybe short term cheaper and greener. But what are you doing with the nuclear waste? It has to be dealt with forever. And if something happens it’s much worse for the environment.
And then there is the danger of nuclear meltdown (yes I know it’s veeeery little). Just look at Chernobyl or Fukushima.
Edit: I just asked chatgpt and it told me that renewable engery is actually cheaper:
- Total Costs per MWh (Levelized Cost of Energy - LCOE)**
- Nuclear Energy: The LCOE for nuclear energy typically ranges between 100 and 200 USD per MWh, depending on the location and specific project.
- Renewable Energy: The LCOE for onshore wind and solar energy today ranges from 20 to 50 USD per MWh, which is significantly lower than for nuclear energy. Offshore wind energy is more expensive, but even here, costs are declining.
(I just cut it out of the entire explanation)
And that’s the problem here. Most people have irrational fear. And yet, there is no safer technology than nuclear power today. Including solar, if you consider the whole supply chain end-to-end.
You just store it forever. The amount of nuclear waste that would be produced in 1000 years is negligible in the grand scheme of things. It’s significantly safer for environment than, say, mining lithium.
sigh… chatgpt is not an authoritative source of information. You can ask it tell you a bed time story, you cannot use anything it generates as justification for anything.
Let me look up an actual data for you. BRB.
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If it just would be as simple. There is no way to store something forever. It has to be looked at forever to ensure it’s safety. And those costs will pile up
I wouldn’t say that. Or what is the risk of operating solar or wind energy?
Chatgpt isn’t that bad. Sure it’s not a trusted source. But I am currently at work, so it’s hard for me at the moment to do research.
Not really.
Here are some popular science videos on the topic, while I look up actual papers:
Touches on all your concerns about nuclear waste
General overview of nuclear energy
Spinning turbine – nothing. But getting there – space, ecosystem disruptions, materials, etc etc – if you consider the whole supply chain and lifecycle – it’s very expensive/disruptive/damaging
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This is an article from the German government:
I only see unsubstantiated self-serving claims in that article. Citing accidents as a reason against anything is the exact fear mongering I was talking about. Everything has downsides and upsides. And while we still burn coal and oil, we cannot afford to be picky and reject nuclear energy because nothing else is even remotely a contender.
BTW, France essentially makes the opposite claims, builds tons of reactors, and prospers.
Let’s remove politics from it, and focus on objective physics.
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I don’t want to go into politics. I just wanted to show, how we get it shown officialy from the German government and other sources. They are all heavily against nuclear
Germany is very weird about nuclear power (the dude in the YouTube video touched on that too) but objectively, nuclear power is the safest. Hence, that’s pure political.
German (or any other) government making policy decisions has nothing to do with safety or feasibility of nuclear (or any other) technology. You can’t say “German government decided against it therefore it must be unsafe and harmful”. it’s not a valid argument.
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If you add solar and wind source in a working system yes. If you need to power a nation only with solar you need to include batteries and build entire system based on minimum production in december/january (in europe example). Dont tell me to buy batteries that take summer energy and give you back in winter… it will be an economic disaster 
So… a solar panel alone is cheap! yes. We can go only with sun and wind? no. not yet. it will be too expensive
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There are more spurces. For example water can (and is) be used to store and generate energy. So it’s not all Batteries.
I personally think, that it was wrong from Germany to switch off all nuclear plants as fast as possible. They should keept then running as needed. But long term I think it’s better to use other sources.
Sometimes it’s cheaper with batteries. You cannot build dams everywhere
Yes that’s true. But often water is a forgotten source of energy. Island (?) generates about 73% of its needed energy from water
Let not forget about human adversary as well, a small team have the state backing and want the cooling system fall off at convenient time?
My kWh cos is about 0.19 Eur/kWh and it about 800kWh all together for July month.
My balcony sun power plant produce about 50-80KWh a month and helps offset part of cost. July was very intensive month with lot of test data, soon I will get last month bill, then I need to decide some efficiency problems, may be i need to turn off less profitable nodes, as they was made for TTL data, no demand no need to hold them.
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That also holds true for dams and many, many chemical facilities that store highly toxic substances. You don’t stop building those for fear of someone attacking them (although definitely a strategic consideration for defence personnel)
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My total power draw is around 140 watts including 3 WD HC530 UltraStar 14TiB drives (about 18 watts?) or $15 per month total.
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I pay €0,3149/kwh in Germany and my home server consumes around 140-160W/h. I have been producing electricity myself in the last few weeks and months and now autumn is coming. The kwh in Germany costs an average of €0.41.
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Probably Iceland.
Back to storj, according to my little spreadsheet, a single HDD running at 9W 24/7 costs about $2.50 per month. So there needs to be a certain ROI to install one, and it’s why i’m not using anything small like 1TB.
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My rough estimate is that a node needs to be holding 2TB of data to be paying for itself (power/cooling/internet)… and you lose ~1TB to a safe amount of free space and formatting/filesystem and TiB/TB losses. Basically for any HDD… take 3TB off its capacity to guess what it would return full.
So a 8TB HDD could profit on 5TB/month… but a 24TB could profit on 21TB. 3x the capacity… but more than 4x the space making you money!
(filling 24TB is an exercise left to the reader 
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