# Rightsizing Storj Network Payout Rates **URL:** \ **Category:** Node Operators\ **Tags:** payouts\ **Created:** [August 20, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391 "2026-08-20T22:01:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/277 "2026-09-02T09:41:25Z")
and it already making it work independently from /24 or /32 ---
**Author:** ![alpharabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alpharabbit/32/1129_2.png) [@alpharabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/alpharabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/278 "2026-09-02T09:45:29Z")
> [@arrogantrabbit](#): > > Removing /24 or replacing it with /32 only makes cheating easier. How to cheat when IP rule is completely removed? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 9:46am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/279 "2026-09-02T09:46:24Z")
it is not removed, on /32 you stiil have all nodes as 1 on single external IP ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:00am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/280 "2026-09-02T10:00:36Z")
This Data proves that /24 rule support more VPS providers than storj or node operators itself. Every IP is 1-2$ in cost that is thrown away. it is literally 20-30% of all payouts every month. /32 will lower this number. ![Screenshot 2026-09-02 125132](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/3X/a/6/a682846b51dedc625c5a3dd2bbc2fe21e7b02d90.png) ---
**Author:** ![alpharabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alpharabbit/32/1129_2.png) [@alpharabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/alpharabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:05am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/281 "2026-09-02T10:05:27Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > /32 will lower this number To me /32 would make little difference. Only removing IP filtering completely would cut my costs significantly. ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/282 "2026-09-02T10:07:54Z")
> [@alpharabbit](#): > > To me /32 would make little difference. Only removing IP filtering completely would cut my costs significantly. then we need prevent somehow lot of nodes on 1 hdd, that people multiply node counts. because have 1 node/hdd is good healthy setup, if people will add like this it is OK Any idea? close new node making not an option, as we also will cut dont new good nodes, that will be needed in some point, so it is just not healthy. ---
**Author:** ![alpharabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alpharabbit/32/1129_2.png) [@alpharabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/alpharabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:11am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/283 "2026-09-02T10:11:09Z")
I see no problem with higher node count. Random selection out of 300K nodes is not worse than 30K nodes. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:13am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/284 "2026-09-02T10:13:03Z")
several node per 1 hdd is not healthy setup. we need helthy setups. we already seen it on V2 ---
**Author:** ![alpharabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alpharabbit/32/1129_2.png) [@alpharabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/alpharabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:19am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/285 "2026-09-02T10:19:17Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > several node per 1 hdd is not healthy setup Why? I havenā€™t lost a single node so far despite up to 8 nodes per hdd and 30+ hdds dying. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/286 "2026-09-02T10:33:25Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > several node per 1 hdd is not healthy setup. we need helthy setups. ā€œHealthyā€ means it wins races so customers get higher speeds, and high uptime and audit scores so itā€™s not a burden on the repair system. Thatā€™s what a quality node looks like to the network. Those things have almost nothing to do with how many nodes are on a HDD (until you get to high numbers). Multiple nodes will mean more impact when a single drive fails: but total-loss is rare enough the network doesnā€™t even notice. ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:05am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/287 "2026-09-02T11:05:55Z")
> [@alpharabbit](#): > > Why? I havenā€™t lost a single node so far despite up to 8 nodes per hdd and 30+ hdds dying. > [@Roxor](#): > > ā€œHealthyā€ means it wins races so customers get higher speeds, and high uptime and audit scores so itā€™s not a burden on the repair system. Thatā€™s what a quality node looks like to the network. > > Those things have almost nothing to do with how many nodes are on a HDD (until you get to high numbers). Multiple nodes will mean more impact when a single drive fails: but total-loss is rare enough the network doesnā€™t even notice. May be you are eve right on some point. if we would operate nodes on lower cost, we all can invest more to network. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:12am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/288 "2026-09-02T11:12:55Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > if we would operate nodes on lower cost, we all can invest more to network. Absolutely nobody needs that. Customers donā€™t need more space. Storj doesnā€™t need more satellite load. The plan is t_o get rid of_ some nodes. If Storj makes any Chapter 11 decisions that end up creating more nodes: theyā€™re doing it wrong. šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:12am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/289 "2026-09-02T11:12:57Z")
@littleskunk Can we test it on saltlake how will /32 rule will looks like? and how it will looks like without ip filtering? may be we found that today there is no need of Ip filtering at all when /24 rule was made, no one imagined 30k nodes ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/290 "2026-09-02T11:13:50Z")
> [@Roxor](#): > > Absolutely nobody needs that. Customers donā€™t need more space. Storj doesnā€™t need more satellite load. The plan is t_o get rid of_ some nodes. > > If Storj makes any Chapter 11 decisions that end up creating more nodes: theyā€™re doing it wrong. šŸ˜ then lower network cost ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/291 "2026-09-02T11:16:19Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > then lower network cost Yes. Weā€™re in the thread [about lowering network costs](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391). For Storj. So they survive as a company. Thereā€™s no reason to do **anything** to lower costs for SNOs. We have too many: if some leaveā€¦ _that is the plan_. ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/292 "2026-09-02T11:17:43Z")
> [@Roxor](#): > > Yes. Weā€™re in the thread [about lowering network costs](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391). For Storj. So they survive as a company. > > Thereā€™s no reason to do **anything** to lower costs for SNOs. We have too many: if some leaveā€¦ _that is the plan_. If SNO cost go lower, then storj can make cost more lower. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/293 "2026-09-02T11:19:01Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > If SNO cost go lower, then storj can make cost more lower. Thereā€™s no need. Storj can lower their own costs without changing anything for SNOs. In fact [they are doing it](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391): starting Sept 1st. ---
**Author:** ![Vadim](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/vadim/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Vadim](https://forum.storj.io/u/Vadim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/294 "2026-09-02T11:22:59Z")
> [@Roxor](#): > > Thereā€™s no need. Storj can lower their own costs without changing anything for SNOs. In fact [they are doing it](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391): starting Sept 1st. Yes they do, they need to get lowest price possible. Then network will work more eficiently. also If storj will make more profit, chapter 11 outcome will be more likely positive. As wee also need not only that storj can survive short term but also in long term, this mean development process for that need money. ---
**Author:** ![jammerdan](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jammerdan/32/1121_2.png) [@jammerdan](https://forum.storj.io/u/jammerdan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/295 "2026-09-02T11:27:31Z")
> [@Vadim](#): > > dont get enough data 1 single customer can be enough to flip this and then whining will repeat about overloaded nodes and that nodes cannot be used for something else anymore and how to limit I/O and bandwidth. This whole discussion is so ridicoulus and pointless with the status quo of customers. > [@Vadim](#): > > then we need prevent somehow lot of nodes on 1 hdd No. We need more data. Nobody will put 30 nodes on a single 16TB disk if the disk would fill fast enough with 1 node. Also disks are quite expensive now which will probably limit node expansion anyway once a disk is full. ---
**Author:** ![alpharabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alpharabbit/32/1129_2.png) [@alpharabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/alpharabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391/296 "2026-09-02T11:28:07Z")
When SNOs costs go down storj can go lower with payment. Thatā€™s basic economics. [Previous page](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forum.storj.io/t/rightsizing-storj-network-payout-rates/32391.md?page=14)