# The trash is unpaid?

**URL:** <https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708>\
**Category:** FAQ\
**Tags:** trash\
**Created:** [June 16, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708 "2024-06-16T13:37:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Mitsos](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/mitsos/32/1125_2.png) [@Mitsos](https://forum.storj.io/u/Mitsos)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/229 "2024-07-08T19:28:54Z")

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> [@st99ab](#):
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> And this is part of the issue – how can I know?

You can compare the actual used space (OS reported) with the payouts. It should more or less match. If it doesn’t, then something is going out of sync. Example: assuming you store 100TB for two months straight, but payout for each of those months is $80, then something is not right.

Queue the “but but you may not be storing data for the whole two months” crew. It’s an example, get over it.

> [@st99ab](#):
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> I know that bloom filters are not coming daily. Do they come twice per week? Or once? Or once per month?

Ideally we’d get one bloom filter per satellite per day. Due to some issues (as far as I can tell, it’s not like storjlings are chatty about anything as you have seen), those bloom filters are getting delayed.

> [@st99ab](#):
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> Why don’t satellites stop sending them at all until they run out of all space of all SNOs?

Not ideal 😅

> [@st99ab](#):
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> How long does this thread last? How many other threads were before it about similar issues? How long will it take for Storj to fix the statistics reporting?

Plenty of replies in this and other related threads. It’s not the statistics we care about. It’s actual used space (as reported by the OS).

Queue the cluster size people.

> [@st99ab](#):
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> What responsibility does Storj take?

Can’t speak for them.

> [@st99ab](#):
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> What are the timelines?

Valid question, I’m also interested in this.

> [@st99ab](#):
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> How can SNOs plan their business if Storj takes zero responsibility about anything related to SNOs?

It’s the art of guestimating on the SNO side. If your drives are full, add more if you can afford it, otherwise wait for the dust to settle.

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**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/230 "2024-07-08T19:44:49Z")

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> [@Mitsos](#):
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> It’s the art of guestimating on the SNO side. If your drives are full, add more if you can afford it, otherwise wait for the dust to settle.

This! At the end of the day, after all the wailing and tears… look at your monthly payout and decide if you want to keep going another month. 🤑 Look at your space and decide if you should add more. Storj takes like 30 seconds of decision-making each month 👍

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**Author:** ![st99ab](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/st99ab/32/1124_2.png) [@st99ab](https://forum.storj.io/u/st99ab)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/231 "2024-07-08T20:23:27Z")

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Yeah, that answers what I was trying to figure out if Storj is a serious business or a dodgy one. And it’s obvious now.

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**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/233 "2024-07-09T08:17:33Z")

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Tokens are not related to anything. It’s just an utility token to be paid as a SNO or pay for the storage. Period.  
Not securities, not shares, not commodities and of course not an indication of the progress. They are simple not designed for that.

I would suggest you (personally) to stop make any conspiracy theories around tokens. This is just a simple payment method, that’s all. No one your fake theories would change this fact.

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**Author:** ![flwstern](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/flwstern/32/7821_2.png) [@flwstern](https://forum.storj.io/u/flwstern)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/234 "2024-07-09T09:34:12Z")

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> [@Alexey](#):
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> I would suggest you (personally) to stop make any conspiracy theories around tokens. This is just a simple payment method, that’s all. No one your fake theories would change this fact.

Stop lying @Alexey, we all know Storj Token is used by the CIA to pay Jabba The Hut in a galaxy far far away.

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**Author:** ![nerdatwork](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/nerdatwork/32/1135_2.png) [@nerdatwork](https://forum.storj.io/u/nerdatwork)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/235 "2024-07-09T11:31:33Z")

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> [@flwstern](#):
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> Jabba The Hut

I got you Alexey.

> **[Jabba the Hutt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabba_the_Hutt)**
>
> Jabba the Hutt is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise. He is a large, slug-like crime lord of the Hutt species. Jabba first appeared in the 1983 film Return of the Jedi, in which he is portrayed by a one-ton puppet operated by several puppeteers. In 1997, he appeared in the Special Edition of the original Star Wars film, which had been retitled Star Wars: Episode IV—A New Hope. Jabba made his third film appearance in the 1999 prequel film The Phantom Menace. He is voiced by Larry W...

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**Author:** ![xsys](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/xsys/32/7829_2.png) [@xsys](https://forum.storj.io/u/xsys)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/236 "2024-07-09T14:42:04Z")

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> [@IsThisOn](#):
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> behave like a serious business

would you prefer Storj behaving like large corporate, such as AT&T, Microsoft, etc? Those who do not care about individual customers, don’t care unless you pay them millions on monthly bill, when you call them you reach some India callcentre who knows nothing and is only designed to make you stop bothering them?  
I don’t… 😇

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**Author:** ![littleskunk](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/littleskunk/32/63_2.png) [@littleskunk](https://forum.storj.io/u/littleskunk)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/238 "2024-07-09T16:01:19Z")

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> [@IsThisOn](#):
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> Unfortunately my other praise post about the token was flagged.

We can’t join you on that. This is a sensitive topic in any direction. It is a utility token. Anything outside that scope is problematic even if it is a praise.

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**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/239 "2024-07-09T17:34:02Z")

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STORJ tokens should be like those subatomic particles [CERN investigates](https://home.cern/science/accelerators/large-hadron-collider): existing for so short a period of time you’re not sure they were ever in your wallet at all. Sell every coin. Every payout. Direct to fiat. As soon as possible.

Not much left to argue about in forums: for coins that SNOs sell 20min after receiving them every month. 🤑

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**Author:** ![mikee027](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/mikee027/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mikee027](https://forum.storj.io/u/mikee027)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/241 "2024-07-10T01:21:09Z")

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Do you put an exchange address on your node?

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**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/242 "2024-07-10T01:29:34Z")

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Direct-to-exchange is best: it avoids extra L1 fees moving tokens around.

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**Author:** ![mikee027](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/mikee027/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mikee027](https://forum.storj.io/u/mikee027)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/the-trash-is-unpaid/26708/243 "2024-07-10T01:47:14Z")

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agree, been going to cold wallet, bc documentation. 🤔 🤔

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