# Undistributed payout .. Negative? **URL:** \ **Category:** troubleshooting\ **Tags:** payouts\ **Created:** [September 4, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680 "2026-09-04T15:40:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ItsHass](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/itshass/32/1122_2.png) [@ItsHass](https://forum.storj.io/u/ItsHass)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/1 "2026-09-04T15:40:18Z")
I’m seeing negative figures on undistro payout … why ? whats the repercussion of this ? Undistributed payout $-1.89 ---
**Author:** ![jammerdan](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jammerdan/32/1121_2.png) [@jammerdan](https://forum.storj.io/u/jammerdan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/2 "2026-09-04T15:48:05Z")
> [@ItsHass](#): > > Undistributed payout > $-1.89 SNOs have to pay Storj now to host their data. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![ItsHass](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/itshass/32/1122_2.png) [@ItsHass](https://forum.storj.io/u/ItsHass)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/3 "2026-09-04T16:01:57Z")
🤣 hahaha , that did make me laugh ---
**Author:** ![aleksandr.k](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/aleksandr.k/32/66_2.png) [@aleksandr.k](https://forum.storj.io/u/aleksandr.k)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/4 "2026-09-04T20:35:34Z")
It seems I’m in debt—what’s the punishment for? ![image](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/3X/f/7/f71b6f409064f3ea52496b20809a6a68effdec83.png) ---
**Author:** ![ItsHass](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/itshass/32/1122_2.png) [@ItsHass](https://forum.storj.io/u/ItsHass)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/5 "2026-09-04T20:49:20Z")
I feel like there will be thousands of nodes like this ….. I think we didn’t get paid enough from last payout … not they going to take more off us as a “debt” @Alexey @littleskunk - do you have any information? ---
**Author:** ![elek](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/elek/32/9189_2.png) [@elek](https://forum.storj.io/u/elek)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/6 "2026-09-04T21:24:13Z")
This is a technical difficulty. We didn’t have time to update SNOs, and it’s hard to support our special Chapter 11 situation. Our database calculated what was the usage (owed) and what can we pay for the part of July which was before CH11 (0 USD can be paid today, due to the dependency on court) for We did pre-payment for the active nodes based on estimation. Which means we paid more what we should do based on the ledger. That’s why it’s negative. Assuming the screenshot is about July, I think 5.43 is the pre-payment, 4.75 is the usage for the short July (pre-CH11). Hopefully the August paystub will be less confusing. (which will include the last 5 days from July, the after CH11 period) ---
**Author:** ![ItsHass](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/itshass/32/1122_2.png) [@ItsHass](https://forum.storj.io/u/ItsHass)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/7 "2026-09-04T21:28:08Z")
So the negative **isn’t** taken off the payment this month ? Whenever possible ? , Thanks for picking this up @elek ---
**Author:** ![elek](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/elek/32/9189_2.png) [@elek](https://forum.storj.io/u/elek)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/8 "2026-09-04T21:40:00Z")
> [@ItsHass](#): > > So the negative **isn’t** taken off the payment this month ? Whenever possible ? , Opposite. Positive “undistributed” means we didn’t pay what we should. Negative “undistributed” means we paid more than what we should (because we do pre-payment) I will check how can it be displayed better on web interface. For August: - The boundary of 2026-07 and 2026-08 usage/payment report is moved to July 27th. (due to legal restrictions) from 1st of August. - For August (+5 days) the full usage will be calculated, and difference compared to the pre-payment will be paid - For September we will estimate pre-payment with the new price and also added to the payment ---
**Author:** ![Andrew](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/andrew/32/1139_2.png) [@Andrew](https://forum.storj.io/u/Andrew)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/9 "2026-09-04T22:40:54Z")
If anyone understood what @elek meant, please explain it to me. I’m completely lost in all these prepayments, the July 27-31 payouts, and the calculation bug for August. ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/11 "2026-09-05T02:47:28Z")
August 2026 will be recalculated starting from July 27, 2026, rather than August 1, 2026. The first five days of prepayment that were missed (a bug) will also be taken into account. Then estimate the prepayment for September 2026 at the new prices and add the difference between the prepayment made in August 2026 and the adjusted actual payment. ---
**Author:** ![jammerdan](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/jammerdan/32/1121_2.png) [@jammerdan](https://forum.storj.io/u/jammerdan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/12 "2026-09-05T03:59:16Z")
> [@elek](#): > > - For September we will estimate pre-payment with the new price So you keep owing the July payment with old prices? You should display that in the dashboard. ---
**Author:** ![nyancodex](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/nyancodex/32/1129_2.png) [@nyancodex](https://forum.storj.io/u/nyancodex)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 5:06am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/13 "2026-09-05T05:06:28Z")
expected pay day for Sept? ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:31am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/14 "2026-09-05T06:31:08Z")
Usually first two weeks of every month. I hope we will not delay and this time. ---
**Author:** ![Alexey](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/alexey/32/41_2.png) [@Alexey](https://forum.storj.io/u/Alexey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/undistributed-payout-negative/32680/15 "2026-09-05T06:32:42Z")
Yes, the July and correction for August will use the old pricing. > [@jammerdan](#): > > You should display that in the dashboard. This requires a code change I believe. So it might not be displayed correctly until the next release. The same is true for notifications on the dashboard - they are usually node-side, the satellite cannot signal through it.