# Updates on Test Data **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [April 30, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034 "2024-04-30T15:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![arrogantrabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/arrogantrabbit/32/11200_2.png) [@arrogantrabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/arrogantrabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:49am UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/127 "2024-05-07T05:49:05Z")
Used enterprises drives are cheaper and better than new consumer ones! Checkmate! šŸ˜ƒ Actually, power on/off and associated thermal stress is the most taxing thing for a drive. Running stready state is not. So if anything storj prevents your drives from sleeping, prolonging their life. ---
**Author:** ![vovannovig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/vovannovig/32/60_2.png) [@vovannovig](https://forum.storj.io/u/vovannovig)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/129 "2024-05-07T15:36:49Z")
> [@Unique](#): > > having them run for days on end at 100% Do you already have such a load? I am from Ukraine and have not noticed the increased load; the channels are idle. ---
**Author:** ![arrogantrabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/arrogantrabbit/32/11200_2.png) [@arrogantrabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/arrogantrabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/130 "2024-05-07T16:02:59Z")
> [@IsThisOn](#): > > I would say for the last five years, the most important factor when it comes to drive failures, was to avoid Seagate I feel WD and HGST shall be avoided. Never had a Seagate fail in the last 10 years. Every single WD and HGST did. Both you and I are wrong on this one. There are bad and good batches from any vendor. Not one vendor is inherently better or worse. And with raid drive failure is inconsequential, so buy whatever is cheaper. Drives at this point are consumable commodities. Brands donā€™t matter. Itā€™s race to the bottom on price, and gimmicks on consumer lines. ---
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/131 "2024-05-07T16:41:58Z")
They are made to pass the warranty time line. Like 5+1 year for safety. Like every electric appliance; when the warranty is over, you must expect to buy a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/132 "2024-05-07T17:04:13Z")
> [@arrogantrabbit](#): > > Drives at this point are consumable commodities. Amen! If you want availabilityā€¦ use mirrored/parity configs. If you want recoverability then automate backups. No make/model canā€™t fail tomorrow: every one is doomed to die. So buy lowest $/TB. Or $/TB/years-of-warranty if you want help with replacements. And for Storj prefer density to keep power/cooling costs down. ---
**Author:** ![nerdatwork](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/nerdatwork/32/1135_2.png) [@nerdatwork](https://forum.storj.io/u/nerdatwork)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/133 "2024-05-07T17:06:58Z")
Completely off topic but SK Hynix has 300TB SSD prototype. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/134 "2024-05-07T17:13:08Z")
> [@nerdatwork](#): > > Completely off topic but SK Hynix has 300TB SSD prototype. And yet there are still folks who think SSDs will never cost less $/TB than HDDs. I think itā€™s inevitable: we have _maybe_ 3 years left. SSDs getting cheaper $/TB is purely manufacturing scale: no new science: they passed HDDs in density years ago. But HDDs continue to struggle for every gain in capacity: requiring essentially new engineering and materials for every advancement. I canā€™t wait! ---
**Author:** ![Ruskiem](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/ruskiem/32/64_2.png) [@Ruskiem](https://forum.storj.io/u/Ruskiem)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/135 "2024-05-07T17:22:29Z")
Yea i never understood, why donā€™t we have like only SSDā€™s from like 5 years at least? Whats the problem in making 16TB HDD, vs SSD? are materials more expensive? geeeeez. ---
**Author:** ![BrightSilence](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/brightsilence/32/6048_2.png) [@BrightSilence](https://forum.storj.io/u/BrightSilence)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/136 "2024-05-07T17:30:35Z")
![image](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/3X/f/c/fc96548a6ec932d86bdbcf3a9d7319674cb63526.jpeg) Problem is that when I look at 4TB SSDā€™s, prices are about twice of what this graph suggests they are in 2024. And 4TB would be useless for Storj. Itā€™ll likely be a lot longer before 20TB SSDā€™s are going to be cheaper than HDDā€™s and by that time there will be larger HDDā€™s available too. I think they will coincide for a while longer. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/137 "2024-05-07T17:43:38Z")
> [@BrightSilence](#): > > Problem is that when I look at 4TB SSDā€™s, prices are about twice of what this graph suggests they are in 2024 And yet in 2023 the chart estimated $40/TB for SSDs: which we _definately_ hit on budget models. Yes flash prices have seen a recent surgeā€¦ but HDDs also raised two years ago when Chia drained the market of large drives. So yeah prices will surge and sag. ---
**Author:** ![Ruskiem](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/ruskiem/32/64_2.png) [@Ruskiem](https://forum.storj.io/u/Ruskiem)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/138 "2024-05-07T17:48:37Z")
and whats better for ā€œsolar flareā€? they say its comming sooner or later like in [1859](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event)! ;\> ---
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/139 "2024-05-07T17:50:33Z")
I donā€™t see SSDs going cheaper than HDDs for as much time as HDD can still increase capacity and be a player in the market. The materials are cheaper. You store data on glass/plastic/aluminium, not on electronic cells. Yes, there are SSDs bigger than HDDs and can scale up much faster, but the prices are way too prohibitive, and I donā€™t see them come down to qucikly because the big majority of users are pretty happy with 1-4TB SSDs and pay those huge prices conpared to an HDD. I have like 20 laptops and PCs, for business and personal use, and I donā€™t use more than 100-200GB on each. So Iā€™m pretty happy with 1-2TB SSD and I donā€™t need more. Why buy 100TB SSD? Data centers buy the cheapest thing on the market. So 50-100TB SSD going cheaper than 100TB HDD? I donā€™t think so. When data storage needs for AI and virtual life will be so huge that HDDs canā€™t keep up anymore, SSDs or crystal balls will be the only option, and nothing to compare too. ---
**Author:** ![arrogantrabbit](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/arrogantrabbit/32/11200_2.png) [@arrogantrabbit](https://forum.storj.io/u/arrogantrabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/140 "2024-05-07T17:54:27Z")
Magnetic recording is way more resilient compared to electrostatic. Free flying elementary particles can easily flip the bit, or shift he encoding; there is error correction of course but it is not allmighty. Most SSDs require constant partrol monitoring and refreshing cell data as it deteriorates; it gets worse with higher density and more complex symbol encoding constellations. SSD power-off Data retention is quite horrible. So for archival storage HDDs may be superior. Heck, tape is still used (and Iā€™d argue itā€™s way better than HDD due to its simplicity. There is just tape with data ā€“ HDD has a lot of crap that can fail besides the data) ---
**Author:** ![vovannovig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/vovannovig/32/60_2.png) [@vovannovig](https://forum.storj.io/u/vovannovig)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/141 "2024-05-07T17:58:46Z")
> [@vovannovig](#): > > Please tell me when to expect the start of full-scale testing? > In 1-2-3 weeks? > [@vovannovig](#): > > Do you already have such a load? > I am from Ukraine and have not noticed the increased load; the channels are idle. Someone please give me an answer and better stay on topic. (sorry, but reading millions of posts of other peopleā€™s off-topic thoughts is very tiring) I donā€™t see any positive changes or increase in load yet, but they wrote about some fantastic numbers that look more like ā€œcapacity extractionā€ rather than storing useful information. ---
**Author:** ![Roxor](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/roxor/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Roxor](https://forum.storj.io/u/Roxor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/142 "2024-05-07T18:07:15Z")
> [@vovannovig](#): > > Someone please give me an answer and better stay on topic. Saltlake shows increased traffic from the [start of May](https://storjstats.info/d/storj/storj-network-statistics?orgId=1&from=now-30d&to=now&viewPanel=273). I donā€™t think Storj is promising any particular rates of ingress for any particular duration: so weā€™ll all have to watch the global dashboard to see whatā€™s coming through. But Iā€™m excited like you are: probably lots of SNOs are looking forward to more data: even if itā€™s synthetic! ---
**Author:** ![vovannovig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/vovannovig/32/60_2.png) [@vovannovig](https://forum.storj.io/u/vovannovig)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/143 "2024-05-07T18:13:54Z")
> [@Roxor](#): > > Saltlake shows increased traffic from the [start of May](https://storjstats.info/d/storj/storj-network-statistics?orgId=1&from=now-30d&to=now&viewPanel=273). Thank you for your answer, but alas, I donā€™t see a surge in data receipt. ![Š”Š½ŠøŠ¼Š¾Šŗ эŠŗрŠ°Š½Š° 2024-05-07 Š² 21.10.47](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/3X/5/f/5fcf66c97ee10f094152d2fc98a71a7ed26be23b.png) ![Š”Š½ŠøŠ¼Š¾Šŗ эŠŗрŠ°Š½Š° 2024-05-07 Š² 21.11.46](https://storj-s3.bcdn.literatehosting.net/original/3X/9/0/907154ffd417fb2571bf59b3c4f2baf520a3608c.png) Perhaps there are geographical restrictions? ---
**Author:** ![snorkel](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/letter_avatar/snorkel/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@snorkel](https://forum.storj.io/u/snorkel)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/144 "2024-05-07T19:28:41Z")
The customers didnā€™t signed any agreement yet; Storj is only preparing, does tests and probably makes a report with their findings for customers. If they will be convinced, than will join and we will see the much awaited ingress. But this can take weeks or months. Itā€™s a new technology, donā€™t expect a big company move over night itā€™s PBs of data to something new and still in developement. The bosses must be convinced and this takes time. ---
**Author:** ![ACarneiro](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/acarneiro/32/1129_2.png) [@ACarneiro](https://forum.storj.io/u/ACarneiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/145 "2024-05-07T20:19:17Z")
I have nodes in the UK, Portugal and Poland and have not seen any significant increase in node activity either. Perhaps itā€™s either not started yet or is limited in geographical scope? ---
**Author:** ![littleskunk](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/littleskunk/32/63_2.png) [@littleskunk](https://forum.storj.io/u/littleskunk)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/146 "2024-05-07T22:35:23Z")
There are some important changes in the upcoming storage node release: > [@Upcoming storage node improvements including benchmark tool](https://forum.storj.io/t/upcoming-storage-node-improvements-including-benchmark-tool/26096/22): > > Performance improvements are all merged. Time for one final update to keep you all informed. Letā€™s start with the important information first. There is now a feature flag for nodes that require security over performance. --filestore.force-sync=true Also I am not sure how accurate the bandwidth tracking on the storage node dashboard will be. Once upon a time we had the problem that the dashboard was showing the order size instead of the transfered bytes. I would expect a similar situation againā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![vovannovig](https://storj.bcdn.literatehosting.com/user_avatar/forum.storj.io/vovannovig/32/60_2.png) [@vovannovig](https://forum.storj.io/u/vovannovig)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034/147 "2024-05-08T16:18:19Z")
> [@ACarneiro](#): > > limited in geographical scope? I believe that there are definitely geographical restrictions, but they try not to comment on this, since STORJ is positioned as a decentralized storage, and real users need a separate continentā€¦ > [@littleskunk](#): > > And one more important detail. We need to cleanup as many suspended accounts as possible to free up as much space as possible. This will reduce your payout for the current month and it will look like we are trying to murder your storage node. If Iā€™m right and there are geographical restrictions, please try to eliminate the stratification and take care of all operators. [Previous page](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forum.storj.io/t/updates-on-test-data/26034.md?page=8)