What the state for real costumer data

Hi remember some time back in the spring there was talk abut lower the price in the end off the year . What the state on that and are there some place where one can see how much real data is use on the network total not test data

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Assumed the numbers from Grafana are correct, there is quite some interesting picture. The customer satellites as far as we know are AP1, EU1 and US1, while US2, Europe-North and Saltlake are considered test resp. beta satellites. It is my understanding that on the US2 satellite there might be real customer data if they agreed to beta testing and transfer.sh had been announced to store its data on Europe-North but I don’t know if that is still true.

For the remaining 3 the picture is like this:

And I think this is quite amazing. The amount up- and downloaded through US1 is really interesting. For EU1 we see that they have almost double the number of accounts compared to US1 but egress is only 1/6th of it. There is clearly room for improvement, maybe the Europeans are not aware yet of the price changes early this year, that made downloading much more affordable.

AP1 cant really compete with the other 2. Number of clients is low and ingress and egress are low too. A possible reason for that might be a language barrier (same could be true for Europe). Countries like Japan, South Korea, Thailand and others might benefit if there were localized versions of the project to lower entrance barriers. For me it is understandable: How to trust a project with my data, if there is a language barrier that potentially puts my data at risk. These number might give some ideas where marketing efforts could or should be put.

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This data indeed looks amazing, though I want to note that I feel that the turnover of data is also much higher. My garbage folder is about half of what I get in ingress data, also backup up by the fact that I don’t see my nodes growing that much. Also my new node from 2 days has about 1.9GB of storage now with already 400MB in trash.

So yes, there is way more ingress, but that data also quickly gets deleted by the looks of it.

They could have this pattern:

So, take a look only on customer-facing satellites. However, it’s not guarantee that customers would not delete their data as well.

From the SNO point of view (I’m SNO too) they all customers regardless satellites while they pay for the service.

Do you have an account on the EU satellite? Why don’t you download your data more frequently now?

The reason could also be different security perceive. I am using the EU satellite for my personal backup and I wouldn’t use one of the big centralized services for that. Storj would have to increase the pricing for storage to scare me away…

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Why don’t you? :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m in the same boat though. I have personal backups on EU1. And no, I don’t download them a lot. But it is important to get users on there either way. Even if it’s small time users like myself. Let them experience the benefits and great pricing, maybe their next job they work at a company with big data storage and egress needs and they will mention Storj. Right now the biggest priority is getting mind share.

Also keep in mind that there may be quite a bit of time before user growth turns into large amounts of data and traffic. The larger projects tend to need some time to implement things.

Though it would be nice to also have “monthly_active_accounts” as part of the stats.

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You can check the used Data from Customers here (and its growth): Grafana
The board is still WIP, but shows already some numbers :slight_smile:

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Thank you for hosting this, it’s a great service and I enjoy being able to check what the network is doing.

I am seeing the same, my node has high ingress, but the net growth is tiny, and the last 2 months has been negative - Looking at the delete pattern, it looks very much like transient backup data on US Gateway-MT server - It usually has been uploaded 7 days / 14 days previous looking at segment ID, before delete of doom - there are also monthly backup that does a huge delete around 6 days before end of month, I don’t look forward to those.

My node is not enjoying this data, the average segment size for me has dropped from ~3M to 1.2M over the past 4 months, which makes my filesystem no longer optimal where I really notice the delete’s coming through now - I’ve had to limit the IOPS on the node to 50 Iops/sec with a burst of 100 - again I’m not having an issue with it, I just find the change in usage of the Storj networking intresting :slight_smile:

Sorry Storj for personal use is still far to expensive compared to :back: :fire: and you get a bonus application that does backup for you, and now supports USB attached drives - yes, if like me you accidently didn’t tell it to ignore Storage Node on USB, it will back that up as well :rofl: but I know I not comparing fair, Storj not aimed at end users - I want lots of data on network, but just sad that it still not happened, and not getting visibility of Storj future incentives to drive growth.

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4 posts were split to a new topic: Looking at the data, does anyone have any guesses as to what caused the sudden jump in offline nodes in this chart (US2 Offline nodes)

I believe the free tier and the reduced prices should have an effect and attract higher bandwidth use cases, yes. This would certainly not mean that every user like you would completely change their usage pattern. But the pricing switch from storage focused to bandwidth focused this should reflect in the egress bandwidth usage.