I sent this proposal to the team
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Thank you for taking the time to explain the process!
Second month no payout here in Covid-19 times. I am requesting a guide to enable zkSync on my node (how does the run command change?)
Also, is zkSync available for 1) Kraken deposit adresses 2) Ledger wallet deposit adresses?
Thank you.
Etherscan erc20 fee uses 65k gas as a base value. Storj token transfers mostly use 36.5k gas and sometimes use 51.5k.
Thank you for your answer, you really dont have a simple Job here.
But i really cannot follow your Argumentation.
I have not received any payment the last two month.
So you say you postponed My payments. In Fact there is nothing shown on the Dashboard or everywhere.
The Fact in my view is that there is NO payment.
There is nothing confusing.
There is no payment for a Lot of us and on Fact I See that storjlabs has stopped paying me.
Its simple Not enough to say you will Pay in 2,3,4 oder 12020 months.
You dont even know!
Im at a point After the last two month that i dont care if its economical for storjlabs. Its storjlabs fault and they have to tale the Risk. And they have to pay their SNOs.
So storjlabs is Holding back the payments, thats Not Common. My Boss cannot say he accumulates my salary for XX month.
If I Look in the blockchain there is also no payment to me - so there is no.
That you pay something to Someone is ok, but doesn’t helps.
But thanks for the reply
Best wishes
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While I appreciate your argumentation and all the work you’re doing, I do have a question:
you’re saying that the minimum payout is $1, right?
For January I was supposed to receive $1.85 + $0.56 for December. But I still haven’t received anything, despite the fact that the Dashboard show these stats.
So the question is - are the payouts already completed or they’re still in progress?
Thank you
the problem is it would take 25 usd to send you the 2 usd
lets say you have 50 USD earned, just the transaction will take 25 USD so you get half payed
ETH is a mess
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Thank you, I 100% agree 
I love being involved in your decisions. Even if the final decision comes to you, I really appreciate your transparency and I think this is one of your strengths.
Regarding option 1 (Layer 2 payout solution), I suppose that you made some kind of a study (assessment and comparison on several sides: technical, economical, community, team references, roadmap, etc.).
Would it be possible to sum up this assessment somewhere in your blog? I am a Consultant so I would love a ppt ^^ But a well-written and detailed blog post would do the job, maybe even better.
This would help us to:
- better understand those Layer 2 payout solutions
- understand your final decision (and why zkSync is the solution you are implementing, why is it better for Storj project)
I know these questions may have been partially or completely addressed somewhere in the forum but I think a so important topic would require a formalized explanation, that we can easily find out (and it would be publicly accessible, without having to be registered in the Storj forum).
Tell us what you think!
Thanks a lot, you (we?) are a great team
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I love the Storj project and will definitely not leaving the project. I left the SIA project month ago to support 100 % Storj.
However now I realized the advantage of a true decentralized cloud storage like SIA. You definitely get your Payout.
Hopefully Storj solve the problem fast. When not the market solve the problem
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It’s just a matter of time how much patience new SNOs coming to join storj, even older SNOs.
The mind will work it’s magic the SNOs are the backbone of the storj network once you stop seeing income coming in for your node running we’re at 2 months now. This is going to be a problem no one wants to run there nodes not knowing when or how there payments are going to come 90% of SNO are not going to experiment with zksync at all and then your saying this 2 months of no payment is going to change to 3 months and so on. Storj has the right to raise the limit of minimal payout but if the minimal isn’t really considered a minimal if it depends on the % of fees plus the minimal payment that’s not really minimal pay out. There’s 1000s of SNOs that don’t meet the minimal payout this looks like a problem for the future of Storj if we can’t find a proper solution to the payouts SNOs will start leaving the network I almost guarantee It. Of course there will always be new SNOs but now as new SNOs you gotta worry about held payments for your node plus your payments will be held on the payout side as well because new SNOs will realize that they will need to wait months before they will now see any income for there storagenode.
This isn’t going to be an easy task if the Eth stays like this and it doesn’t improve in the foreseeable future we’re going to have much more issues then we have now, we’re still early in this stages this can go way worse then it is now or it can get much better who really knows. This isn’t Storj fault but it can cost them in the future.
I can tell you the effect of this no payment has already started in SNOs minds already have received emails from friends says this and I quote, “ I will give this another month if I don’t see any income I will STOP IT” end quote
How do I reply to this just hang in there a few more months and you probably won’t meet the minimal payout cause your node has only been running for 3 months your SOL.
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This will lead to a massive concentration and centralization to big SNOs and will contradict the Idea of the network itself 
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Got you.
I’ll wait for the next node version then.
Thanks.
Ilan
I have some concerns regarding zkSync terms of service (https://zksync.io/legal/terms.html#your-use-of-zksync).
"You release us from all liability related to any losses, damages, or claims arising from: (a) user error such as forgotten passwords, incorrectly constructed transactions, or mistyped Virtual Currency addresses; (b) server failure or data loss; © unauthorized access to the zkSync application; (d) bugs or other errors in the zkSync software; and (e) any unauthorized third party activities, including, but not limited to, the use of viruses, phishing, brute forcing, or other means of attack against zkSync. "
what about people making 2$ a month ? They wont get paid until 2023 ? 
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Good Afternoon,
I have not received any payouts for 65 days. Could I be falling into the minimum payouts bucket? I am currently running three separate nodes with between 500GM to over 1TB of traffic each month. I believe I should be receiving payouts for this level of traffic.
What information do you need from me to answer this question?
Thank you for your quality poste. Do the combined accumulated amounts from multiple nodes count toward the threshold? Or does each node need to meet the threshold before disbursement?
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Hello @kpower517,
Welcome to the forum!
In February 2021 (for all outstanding payouts):
In January 2021 (for December 2020 payout):
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And what are your concerns?
I would love a webinar (live or recorded) about this L2 payment option for the SNOs non familiar with zkSync.
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I understand you are doing a lot of efforts to reduce try fees for SNO paiements. I run 4 small nodes and it is the second month in a row you I receive no token. As the trend is quite bullish, ETH fees are not about to go down, and it is quite unfair for small SNO who can’t benefit from this bullish trend with no new STORJ token.
If you wish to keep small operators around the world. I would suggest to set a limit of number of rollforward month in a rowfor each SNO. If you don’t do that, most of small SNOs will be tempted to leave as soon as graceful exit is possible.
Please consider that option, ETH fees will not go down until ETH2.0 is released.
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