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I think this conversation has gotten off track. The elephant looks confused. Comtact forms and testimonials have a very small relationship to the issue of the economics for Storj Node operators. Letâs not turn this thread into general complaints.
It may be a good idea to lock this thread once the new payout proposal is posted as we wonât want two threads of the same subject. And this one is already too long for someone to sift through for productive information, in my opinion.
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Fair point, but right now we can only see that confused face of the elephant and weâve kind of discussed it to death. Iâm sure there will be plenty more to discuss ones we see the rest of the elephant. I agree we should lock this topic once the proposal is posted. As it then switches from speculation to something more specific.
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How many nodes can leave the network until data loss may occur? Are there any statistics / dashboards for this question?
Edit: If you think this is too offtopic i can also start a new threadâŚ
Whatever the change may be, I imagine it would be implemented gradually to prevent possible churn from happening at the same time. In that scenario, repair can take care of any nodes that leave. Hopefully SNOs who do decide to leave will run graceful exit to get their held amount too. The network can handle a lot.
Also, the first step will just be a proposal, I believe. So if the feedback on that is really bad, Iâm guessing they will adapt.
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Whatever the change may be, I imagine it would be implemented gradually to prevent possible churn from happening at the same time. In that scenario, repair can take care of any nodes that leave. Hopefully SNOs who do decide to leave will run graceful exit to get their held amount too.
- I have some nodes with held amount > 50$ => a graceful exit would be a good idea.
- Other nodes have only 1-2 $ - so gracefully exiting wouldnât cover energy costs => hard shutdown?!
The network can handle a lot.
a lot is not very precise. any hard facts?
Also, the first step will just be a proposal, I believe. So if the feedback on that is really bad, Iâm guessing they will adapt.
The feedback WILL be very bad. Otherwise they would just released the paper/change the payout rates. I personally think that there wonât be much room to negotiate. So everyone get their popcorn ready 
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Letâs not get ahead of ourselves and see what the proposal is. If you do want to exit, youâll have to make the determination yourself. I would suggest running graceful exit in everything, but I guess people canât be expected to take a loss for the good of the network.
As for solid numbers, you can calculate how much Storj could instantly lose. But it would be a quite meaningless numbers as nodes wonât go offline in a coordinated fashion like that. It depends much more on how fast they can repair data if needed and I donât think those numbers are publicly available. However I do believe they have the ability to scale up repair workers if required.
Keep in mind that you need only 29 pieces out of 80 to be able to get the file. I believe repair currently kicks in at around 54 pieces, so that would be the lowest availability on the network. So there is a lot of slack built in in case there is churn.
As for negotiating⌠We donât need to. If there is a high risk of high churn, that risk does the negotiating for us as Storj canât risk file loss or even losing too much capacity on the network. So Iâm actually quite certain our feedback matters. If the new system doesnât work for you, let them know why and tell them if you plan to exit. That way they will have to adapt if too many people respond like that.
But for now, letâs wait for more news first.
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I think it will be a difficult thing to try and balance out. No matter what number is ultimately decided on, there are going to be people posting their configuration, power usage, costs per kwh, and how they canât earn anything with whatever the numbers are. We have that now with some people. We can make recommendations to run low wattage devices and on hardware that is already running for other purposes, but each person is going to have to decide what their breaking point is for earning or not.
One thing to keep in mind though, is that those who leave, their data will likely be added to those who stay, and so the ones who stay may balance out by having a lot more data than they had before. Whether that works against the new economic model is going to be known soon enough.
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It comes at a bad time. Energy prices are at an all time high for many people atm. For me that is going to get slightly better in April and Iâm looking to switch to a cheaper power company as well. But if this would have happened with the prices I had early 2022, I could have handled a much bigger drop in payouts. That said, my biggest nodes arenât going anywhere as they run on always on hardware anyway. Itâs just the external USB connected nodes that I may have to reconsider. Which at the moment is less than a third of my total stored data. And depending on how things go, I might actually migrate those to my internal array. Weâll see.
The proposal has now been posted. Letâs lock this topic and continue the discussion there.
Well, the proposal is out https://forum.storj.io/t/update-proposal-for-storage-node-operators/21749
Basically the same thing that OP proposed ($1 per TB stored
$5 per TB egress (including repair/audit) and not a word about changing price to customers
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