It was before like this. To force update data from the satellites you need to restart the node or wait for 12-24 hours after the payout is finished. Maybe it never update until restart (I suspect this).
The problem is - there is usually update every week and your node will be restarted almost right after the payout has been completed, so you have not had a chance to catch this before 
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Since this was the first time, we sent about half of the zkSync payouts before remembering to add the bonus! Whoops! So one half got the bonus in the same transaction and the other half got an additional transaction. Weāve made sure our processes address this going forward. You must have been in the first half @BrightSilence.
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That isnt zksync, Its still the normal pay on ETH L1
I just wanted to follow up and say weāre still working on this! Thanks for your patience as we get additional preflight reviews!
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Well, changing the rules in the middle of the game (25 ā 10%) isnāt nice.
Iāve been running a node for almost a year. I never received anything. I estimate I will get paid for the first time in 2 or 3 months. Moving to 10%, I estimate it will take another year to get paid. That is if you donāt change the rules againā¦ who knows what will happen in 1 year?
Most SNOās own a Binance account. You can make one single transfer into a Storj account in Binance and from that account process all payments. Itās a bit of work, I guess, but fees for you would be negligibleā¦
This was me - I started around the same time and every time I saw a payout getting closer the rules changed. I just eventually gave up on L1 and moved to zksync. Donāt get me wrong. I am not a fan that storj chose a solution that remains half baked but it is all about cost avoidance for them. Thatās just a simple statement of reailty and I didnāt see the point of continuing the debate any longer. I am not a fan of zksync - but we are stuck with it it seems. I still donāt expect to be able to use my tokens for at least another year though due to the transfer costs.
Itās not applied yet. See the original proposal:
So, itās not like you described. You was warned in the last month, and reminded in the current.
Well, Iām not sure which is better, to āownā coins that are stuck in Storjās pockets or to āownā coins that are stuck in a zksync wallet. Either way, the coins are unusableā¦
Anyway, this move to zksync was a bit lameā¦ it would have been more honest from Storj to state that SNOās would have to pay for the fees to receive payments. Unless youāre a big whale or a HODL, that is what is going onā¦
No SNO wants to burden Storj with fees, we all want Storj to succeed and be profitable for the team. ItĀ“s just that this zksync solution is NOT a solution, and they should stop selling it as if it is. Arguments like āYou donāt own the coins in a DEX, if you move to zksync you will hold the keys and the coins will really belong to you!ā.
For plimās sakeā¦ Iāve bought a few used cars, I know a used car seller when I see oneā¦
This is more for Centralized Exchanges, where you are really doesnāt have keys. Not yours keys - not your money.
DEX (Decentralized Exchanges) usually allow you to use your own wallet, where you control your keys.
A few wallets have a DEX or swap functions and can work with zkSync (I heard about Numio for example, but I cannot confirm that, I do not use it).
That would depend on the interpretation of the word āDecentralizedā in DEX. For some, you included, āDā stands for the user owning the keys, which is a perfectly acceptable interpretation. But for many, āDā stands for an EX where you trade decentralized goods.
The best example you came up with on āhow to own usable zkSync-STORJ coinsā was Numio, and youāre not even sure about itā¦ that says something on how well thought this zkSync thing wasā¦
I know itās not applied yet. Thatās why I think it is still worth talking about itā¦
Thatās simply not what DEX means. @Alexey was using the only correct meaning. The term is used to separate decentralized exchanges from centralized ones. Decentralized finance - Wikipedia
You donāt have coins or tokens in a DEX (unless you are a liquidity provider), they provide a way to trade, but transactions happen to and from your own wallet.
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I kind of agree with what you wroteā¦
But still, thatās not the way many people see itā¦ I would argue most consider Binance to be a DEXā¦
And if you take the trouble of reading the wiki link you posted, youāll find that ādecentralizationā is not a binary thingā¦ there are 50 shades of grey between EX and DEXā¦
But, is this important? Do you recall whatās at stake here?
@Alexey grabbed the opportunity I gave him, by using a bad word, to dismiss and hide my post, and choose to comment only on some āimprecisionā I might have made, while disregarding the important issuesā¦ are you sure you want to keep battling the imprecision?
To make it more complicated they actually have DEX
Regarding hiding your post: Flag a post for moderator attention - users - Discourse Meta
But I see a reason why it was hided - because itās breaking Code of Conduct and Community Standards - Storj Community Forum (official)
As soon as you redacted your post it become unhided.
You werenāt convinced enough that zkSync is not a solution to the problem of high commissions if you want to get earned every month, and not wait until a sufficient amount is accumulated.
The use of harsh words and offensive language did not in the least support your arguments, rather the opposite.
Itās not, but the resulting confusion was the direct result of misusing the term. So probably just avoid that in the future.
Iāve been around here long enough to know @Alexey has very thick skin and wouldnāt ignore your comment for one bad word. Community members can flag your post though and if multiple do, it gets hidden. Easy to resolve by editing.
As for the underlying argument. It is simply a fact that if you donāt own the keys, you are not in control of the tokens. You are relying on trusting an external party that can at any moment run away with your tokens or be hacked and have someone else run away with them. You didnāt actually bring up an argument against that other than.
Are we to infer your argument from that?
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Just realized I should probably have posted a comment on this thread linking to SNO Payment mega-FAQ. I updated the original post, but I donāt know if folks get notifications from edits.
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Hi!
Just noticed this zkSync bonus.
Iāve been using zkSync almost from the very beginning (when you gave us this option).
My question: how can we see on the dashboard that we received the zkSync bonus?
Thanks!
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If you donāt mind me answering that. Iām pretty sure you canāt at the moment. In order to include it in the earnings calculator I dug through the databases and the amount including the bonus isnāt mentioned anywhere. You can now see it in the earnings calculator if the payout link shows zkSync was used for the payout and the month youāre looking at is October 2021 or later. But I had to manually derive that and calculate the 10% myself.
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