Storj is asking SNOs for more capacity but I can see none of the storjlings adding HDDs. Insiders should know best.
Genuine question: how do you know who’s adding what?
‘I can see’ != ‘I know’
If you want to play semantics, then you can only say “I can’t see them adding HDDs”. You can’t say “I can see them NOT adding HDDs”
(I guess they probably have that info internally and don’t need to say either way on the public forum…)
EDIT: OOOOOhhhhh, hang on. That depends on how you parse than sentence. I can understand you may have actually said what I think you should have said. Languages, eh?
English is not my native language so forget about semantics.
I only know from this forum if storjlings running their own nodes. Those are either silent atm or talking about downsizing.
Not mine either.
Anyhoo, don’t think I noticed many downsizing (I think @littleskunk was going the route of a lower powered machine but not less capacity such), but what is it that you are trying to say?
Storjlings have lost faith on the project? They don’t think it’s worth expanding? They know something we don’t?
I don’t think I’ve seen enough input from them either way to reach any conclusions, but I may have missed something…
I saw they are pretty transparent. If the deals with the customers where off the table, than I’m pretty sure thay will tell us and stop the massive tests and space reservation.
Playing the guessing game dosen’t provide you with anything useful.
And you can’t mimic what storjlings are doing.
Many run nodes just for testing or as a hobby.
Many of us run nodes as a second or main income source. Storjlings have salaries much bigger than what you could draw from runing nodes. Some sno maybe don’t have jobs or much lower salaries…
So each one should do his own predictions and math, because the facts are different for each one.
Myself I try to reach a point when this income is significant and matters monthly, but I am not there yet. I upgrade only when my nodes are full, and not only with test data. I don’t say may approach is the best. Is just what I decided to do. I want to stop investing my own money into Storj. Tomorrow some nuthead can start a nuclear war and all the storage is fried.
Much more likely storj could file bancruptcy, your storage would be freed then.
I should bloody well hope so (given the alternative!)
There is plenty of opportunities to burn money. I always found one.
i mean, why storj workers shall privately add disks, or expand a SNO role, they only need few nodes for testing, they got paid much more for coding, than they could ever get from hosting nodes.
And in the topic: im not adding , just 2x (4TB swap for 16TB).
If Storj do some call for action, or surge i might think of adding some additional location.
Yes that was me. I am playing with this ideas since a year now. Electricity is expensive here and eating up a lot of my payout. But would a smaller system with a lower power consumption still be able to hit the same payout? How many hard drives can I connect to a low power system? That is hard to tell unless someone decides to uploads a shit ton of data in a short amount of time ideally maxing out my available bandwidth…
My current goal is 4-5 20TB drives on a Pi5 with a 1-2 TB SSD for OS and metadata caching. Should be enough for a 250MBit/s line. We will see how that plan works out.
I don’t think money is a driving force behind running, let alone expanding, nodes for most operators.
If anything, it’s the opposite - you are already spending massive amount of money running your hobby server at home, storj just helps offset a fraction of costs.
And for fun. Personally, I do it 100% for fun. I just bought two 2TB Intel 3600 SSD to mess with zfs special device and have filewalker complete in 10 min (my current special device filled up and it now again takes a few hours). There is no rational reason for doing that. It’s a [twisted and perhaps disturbed] form of entertainment.
my answer as a small hobbyist with 3 drives allocated:
I can expand up to 6 drives (and larger capacity( as things fill up (so… I can more than double). But I need to wait for monthly payouts to even make that decision because:
- I want to ensure the payout is still paying off my high electricity and the cost of drives
- I want to make sure I can actually cash out the token (I tried zksync-era last month and the funds ended up costing more to cash out than they were worth)
- Want to make sure that my nodes are actually operational with the problems I’ve been having with garbage and trash. (which ultimately ties back into point 1)
Any expansion beyond that would require me rethinking my hardware setup and maybe getting a nasty letter from AT&T about my bandwidth usage (haven’t gotten one yet, over 12TB this month lol)
I guess the biggest problem I see for now and future is the ISP. If they start trotteling Storj connections or block them, that’s the end of Storj. Energy cost, hardware cost, software bugs, all can be managed by us and devs. Internet bandwidth can’t.
I don’t see any fun in running storage nodes. For me it’s just a reminiscent obsesion from mining and a need for extra income. When you run 1-2 nodes, maybe it’s just fun in a way. When you run 17, the fun has nothing to do with it.
The Wife still awaits for the palpable explanation of the investement and black chirpping boxes in the house.
I am doing this as a hobby. No need to make money.
But based on hobbyists and ‘use what you have’ growth is limited for storj. I can’t see how this could work at current rates for 10x or 100x expansion.
Off-topic: but to me STORJ tokens are just a way to distribute value globally: and sending them directly to an exchange address to be sold immediately makes the most sense. I don’t want them: I want fiat (or at most USDC).
i see fiber ISPs are rolling out a 8Gbps now. What onces was a ludicrous speed at home = 1Gbps, becomes average again. With 8Gbps You can download 80TB in 24h. The world is moving on, Its just in human brain, something stuck, that TB values are impossible to fit Your home throughput, but they long ago not.
the accepted service level on american residential ISPs is really, really low. Data caps, low upload speeds, throttling, etc.
That said, my service says unlimited data and I’m using it!