Storj app for Umbrel

Hello everyone,

This is my first post on the forum, but I’ve been storjing and reading for many months. Happy to finally step up and join the community.

The reason why I’m posting is that Storj doesn’t have an Umbrel app yet, and I want to share the initiative to start researching and implementing a Storage Node app for Umbrel.

For those that are not familiar with Umbrel, It is an app store for decentralized nodes (usually a raspberry) although it is still young and beta, I see extreme potential for Umbrel.

I’m open to feedback, ideas and everything that would help. If we find that this idea is worth it pursuing I will be happy to implement it myself in my free time.

Thank you all, see you around!

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For what I read, it’s just an UI on top of docker installed on an ubuntu-like system.

Dunno why they call it “OS”, this is absolutetly not an operating system…not even decentralized. Seem only a lot of nice words piled up.

Anyway, storj already have the docker composer file\container, it can be added easily.

Although I agree that the official docker is the best technical implementation for experts, I also believe we are moving towards a mass adoption of self-hosting nodes (including non-techies) as web3 becomes a reality.

We will see solutions like umbrel oversimplifiying the installation of storj-like apps with one-click for people that are interested in Web3, but doesn’t have the time to learn the skills.

I know we’re not short of storj operators, so putting the efforts in implementing that is more about working towards a mature ecosystem where you have an oversimplified install option with his own kit of drawbacks.

I haven’t tried the OS, but I think they just made a linux distribution, in any case I also prefeer a real linux distro and installing umbrel on top.

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The simplification of installer will not help the Storage Node Operator (SNO) to solve any issue which he/she may meet - neither port forwarding issues, nor networking/firewall issues nor configure a storage (one/many HDDs and so on).
As result the user of simplified installer will act as usual - in any complicated situation it will destroy everything and reinstall (this is will be easy, yes?) and lose money and time. For the network - a lot of repairs and losing money too.

We already have similar application for QNAP - it’s actually a wrapper around docker. And in most cases the outcome is removing this app and configure the node from the CLI than trying to make it work, if it did not work right away.

The node setup is some kind of exam to be qualified as a SNO.

So simplifying the installer, in my personal opinion, is not what is required.

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But isnt the windows installer a simplified version though, So then you get the most inexperienced users joining the network just because they run windows. Right?

It still requires to generate and sign at least identity and you still need to make port forwarding. However this installer will not allow you to setup more than a one node anyway.

But I have to agree, if consider Umbrel as OS - it could have an installer.
But use another one wrapper around docker… How it would be different from the Portainer?

One could dream of having an All in one installed that does pretty much everything except forward the ports. One that can generate a 1 time identity so that you cant make any mistakes of using the wrong one, so then it would just go straight into starting up the node. I think the highest user error so far is reusing an Old identity to start a new node which equals DQ pretty much instantly without a real warning. At least if there is a setup that is all in one it could catch this fatal error before it happens. I think that would be nice.

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I would like to see the application to connect the storage from the Storj DCS to that server and to the NextCloud in particular instead another-one-installer for storagenode :slight_smile:

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Why not both I think nextcloud already is able to connect to storj DCS if im not mistaken.

Yes it’s already can be connected. But if it would be pre-configured (since here is app store some kind), it can be more useful.

But well, as I said - it’s my personal opinion.

Your opinion has explained the “nice to have” to me for storagenode installer on Umbrel.

The QNAP app have an integrated identity generator and signer and designed for straight setup, but: Topics tagged qnap-app

I dont disagree with you, nice to haves, for sure and being able to store data on storj is much more important. But also installing nodes without accidently making a mistake is important which were all human and we all make mistakes from time to time.

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Agreed. And personnally I think it would be nice if satellites could detect when 2 nodes use the same identity so they can be both suspended and avoid DQ just because of a (common) mistake.
I dunno if that’s technically possible though :confused:

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I agree that connecting a storj storage to nextcloud, photoprism, and similar apps has the potential to be a successful win-win use case.

A raspberry pi umbrel user starts with limited storage capacity, so getting 150GB of secure encrypted capacity looks like a superior next-step to the alternative of purchasing hard drives.

There is no much data to backup my claims, but on paper looks great.

Love the original idea of the storage node, of course, maybe we get even better ideas, but one thing is for sure, I’ll go with the most pragmatic one!

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