I originally hoped a node with 10TB of space would offset costs for my personal files, the goal was STORJ would credit my developer account where I could host my personal files. Unfortunately, cost-neutral storage never became a reality for me and for years I’ve had an unused account collecting monthly credits from my node.
With the new announcement, I don’t care to pay anything (even .50/mo) for an unused account, it’s time to close that account and move the funds to another wallet. Perhaps in the future I will grow my node to 20TB to hit cost-neutral storage, but with payouts shrinking my confidence is low that would give me long-term solvency.
I have deleted ALL my test projects, but don’t see an easy way to transfer my STORJ tokens out. Has anyone else found themselves in this scenario? How did you transfer your funds?
Obviously, I will be updating my node with a new wallet address to prevent additional funds from going to this account, that part seems much easier than closing the account to ensure it’s not billed.
From what I’ve seen: refunds are always done by opening a ticket with support to close the account (and not a button in the UI).
But accounts that aren’t storing anything… won’t be billed anything… so you may choose not to close your account to get the refund… and instead leave the coins there until you have a project that needs some space?
Why was that the goal in the first place? Humankind invented money not to have to barter
Buying storage is a separate task with its own cost an value proposition.
Providing storage is entirely different beast, with differmt requiremetns, opportunities, costs, and risks. Why would they ever have to balance each other ?
OP mentioned deleting his files, then looking for a way to get the tokens out. I was making clear that you had to a) close it (not just delete any files), and that b) refunds came from a ticket, not the UI.
Right, are you saying the only way to get a refund is to create a ticket? This does not make any sense. On the other hand, if they do everything so manually no wonder every acount carries massive costs…
That is fine. However I expect that when I go and click “close account” button, it shall ask me where to send the refund, and by default offer an existing payment method on file.
Why would I need to create a support ticket? It’s their problem to get my money back, not mine.
I’m going to close my account with a button next week. I’m not going to create tickets. Lets check their integrity, I woudl just sit and expect a refund within a month. They have payment method on file. Lets see.
I close accounts I don’t use as a matter of policy. Including accounts I rarely use. Like paypal. If I need to use it (for some obnoxous reason – like receiving a refund for a drive from goharddrive because they coudl not issue refund via ebay) – I create an account, send/receve the payment, and close it immediately after. I then submit CCPA request to wipe the rest of the personal data they inevitably captured.
Not that I care so much about the privacy – I don’t – but just out of spite. If my account is gone – they have no reason to keep my data, other than whats required for financial reporting and bookkeeping.
Technically, Money is just an agreed upon fixed barter point to begin price negotiations.
I need a place to keep an offsite replica / backup of my Ubuntu box that serves as a File and Media server - like most of people today, we’ve got TB of family photos, videos, and files that I simply can’t lose.
My hope was that I could have this same server “earn it’s keep” by hosting a STORJ node - when the server was online it could be hosting a STORJ node, doing a daily rsync or backup (TBD on the approach). If the server had a critical failure, was stolen, or the victim of a natural disaster I could have confidence I have a safe copy in the cloud. If done correctly, it would act as an appliance, diligently giving us an offsite restore option.
If I could make a single request to the STORJ Executives it would be to offer space on the STORJ network as a payment option - something like a guaranteed 10:1 would allow me to host 10TB knowing I can get 1TB of cloud storage for free (rather than having to track tokens and earnings that constantly fluctuate), contributing to the community as a positive side effect.
You still can do that. Pay for storage with money, host extra storage for money. Why do you want to tie one to another? I.e. why are you createing artificial dependencies between two unrelated things?
Maybe storj is not the best for your backup needs – my main backup in Amazon for example. And yet I share extra space with storj. Therefore I don’t want storj to pay me in storage, I want cash. (The same way if I work at a shoe factory I don’t want to be paid in shoes!)
I don’t want to use storj for backup because storj is ultimately high performance hot storage. Why would I want to waste money on hot storage to host my backup, that I plan to never need to access, let alone have millisecond latency..
I used to use stoj for other reasons, that also not related to how much space I allocate to the storagenode.
Think about it this way: wIll you artifiially reduce your nodes sizes if they pay you more than the amout of value you pay for storage? No? Then don’t tie those values together.
That’s where we started (Amazon Drive unlimited) - Unfortunately the plan changed to “Amazon Photos” with unlimited photos and 1TB of “other”. That might work for us, but we also lost access to rsync our data there
Nothing is unlimited. Unlimited is unsustainable. Unlimited is bullshit – or you are a product. I recommend (and myself do) avoid any services that mention “ulimited, unmetered, discount, promotion” or any combination of these or similar words.
For backup I use Amazon Glacier Deep Archive – I sync media (and other immutable data, like archives and readonly disk images) there as-is, and backup the rest of my data (minus the above) with Arq. I never expect to need to restore the whole thing, and if I even need to restore a few files in an emergency – there is free allowance a hundred gigabytes per month of egress.
For more convenience, you can pay a bit more with Google Archive – and avoid thawing requirements. But why bother.
Basically, for backup you want cheap storage, and egress cost is irrelevant: because you multiple it by the probability of needing to pay that: cost of storage you multiple by 100%, so it’s 100% what matters.
Refunds of remaining balance are not (yet) automatically going to happen, as @Roxor already stated. So please note that if you have funded your account with STORJ deposits or deposits from a card, we do need to get a refund request from you so we can process the refund asap. We will be happy to assist to expedite your refund of any remaining unused balance. I apologize that we have not yet had the bandwidth to automate the refunding process.
