SNOs with lots of data... How?

As Diego says: Hey, if you ever master hygiene, try working on sensitivity :smiley:

wait…when did this become a job exchange?

easier ways to achive that…

Didn’t read the full thread, but in my opinion the network works well, and the /24 subnet rule seems reasonable. Even if some more experienced people run multiple nodes behind different subnets.

Those who operate multiple nodes are usually among the most reliable members of the network. I’m much more confident that someone with 100+ TB of storage monitors their uptime and performance far more carefully than someone running a single node on a home PC for just a few dollars a month.

And the idea of requiring a $100 escrow deposit for each node just to join sounds absurd. Big players WILL STAY. Look at how much less decentralized Ethereum became after it switched from mining to staking. The high barrier to entry pushed out many smaller participants, leaving the network increasingly dominated by the biggest players.

problem that people makes 10-20 nodes on one 20tb HDD, put each node to separate /24 to get lot of data fast. one HDD failure will drive 20 node down. if it would 1 to 10 nodes in system it is not bit problem but looks like is is hundreds of nodes like this.

That risk is really nothing to worry about.

You don’t realize what you’re saying. No one in their right mind would do something like that, not even for profit.

I have lost like 30 HDDs so far. All nodes survived. I’m not gonna tell you how many nodes that was. :wink:

problem is that people dont care, they do it for fast profit.

I haven’t seen a single claim about 20 nodes on 1 disk, that’s just your imagination. But generally speaking, a 20TB server-grade drive will be far more reliable than consumer-grade 4TB drives.

And you doing it for what?
No profit? Let’s reduce payment to zero.
Slow profit? Let’s cut payment by 20%.

BTW:
I was always thinking there is too many nodes in russia. This was mainly because their government could decide to shut down the internet completely because of the war situation. Now I see that organized group of SNOs which seems to be big enough to blackmail the company. This needs to be addressed by storj.

As I understood they all not from Russia, but all over the world. Just native language is russian. Country itself dont make the point. but I agree problems should be addresd.
I don’t know about organized group, but i can post picture from Porno site with some added text and tell that I represent whole EU SNO community. I really don’t know, so don’t want make another conspiracy theory.

At one time they were prepared for the country to be cut off. But with so many VPNs in use now… who knows. It sounds like SNOs who leave will prefer to GE: and aren’t looking to hurt the network.

I participate in the project solely for profit. I consider myself an intermediate SNO. I’m not a volunteer. I don’t currently have any other source of income. Even if I did, I wouldn’t use up disks for the “good” of the community. Yes, working disks wear out faster than idle disks.
Of course, there are many people who will host data for free (as evidenced by previous posts) because, for example, they have a ton of income from other sources, and this project is a hobby for them. Unfortunately, that’s not me. Everything costs money; if my salary doesn’t cover the fixed costs, I’ll leave.
Of course, everyone will be happy when I leave. :wink: I’ve been an SNO since mid-2020.

To be honest no so happy as you think, project need long term SNOs. would you more agree to smaller profit or no profit at all. i hope Storj give in return something that will lower our cost also. jen price reduction will be somehow justified.

RS numbers have changed significantly since then. Today the network is more vulnerable.

I don’t agree to anything, but my opinion doesn’t matter in the slightest. It’s not my decision. I’ll adjust my approach so that if I determine (calculate) that my salary doesn’t cover my costs, I’ll leave. It’s business as usual for me. Revenue - costs = income. Simple calculation.

Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point I made earlier on why too high payouts results in unnecessary overhead. Reducing payout is not about saving storj money, it’s pennies anyway; it’s about stabilizing the network by removing unreliable nodes like yours. (unreliable in broad sense, it may be technically impeccable, but that does not mater if you randomly leave)

Who else’s decision is it? You make it sound as if you are a victim of circumstances, when in reality you gambled that you can make profit – and in most low cost of living areas it’s indeed still possible to make profit – which only reinforces my point that payouts are too high.

Storj was never meant to take your kids thought college. It’s meant to reduce your costs. Not make you profit.

All those who talk about “business of running storagenode” are wasting their own time chasing volatile “profits” that can vanish any time when that magical threshold is crossed due to circumstances beyond their control – currency drift, cost of living, energy prices, storj policies…

If you chase profit – you just pocket free money.

Yes, and dropping a needle in the ocean raises water level. Technically true, practically irrelevant.

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