The size of the trash is too large

Is it normal for the trash size to be this large? It’s been about this size for a week, and it doesn’t delete.

They restored all the trash on Feb 28… then started to delete it all again Mar 1st. So it hasn’t been a week yet for it to be scrubbed from the filesystem. I’d expect in a couple more days… unless they’re still troubleshooting and will restore it all again soon.

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Thank you, I’ll wait then. I thought there was a configuration error on my end.

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My trash size keeps increasing. The total trash size on all nodes has exceeded 18TB. How long will this continue?

Until the bloom filters are perfect.

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BTW: Only full nodes are losing money because of that situation. Nodes with free space in fact doing better because incoming data is split over less nodes. :money_mouth_face:

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Sorry to chime in here, but many of my nodes are full of trash, and been that way for well over a week. Is there an update? Dont want to start a new topic, but this looks like a repeat of last summer.

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All trash was restored Feb-28/Mar-1… so we’re just now one week from that for it to start being deleted from disk. I’m going to watch it for a couple more days.

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I guess I was expecting to see it start to reduce by now. Has anyone seen StorJ begin to take their trash out of our nodes?

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One thing that really bugs me about Storj is that trash storage isn’t paid. I get that it’s there for Storj’s own safety in case they need to recover data, but if they need that extra buffer, they should be paying for it—not pushing the cost onto node operators.

We’re already providing storage, uptime, and bandwidth, and now we have to hold onto deleted data for free? If they rely on it for system stability, it’s a service they should compensate us for. Otherwise, it just feels like an unfair burden on node operators.

And I don’t care if it’s only like 100GB very often. It’s the principle I just can’t get behind.

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I might agree with you - but that battle has been had, and lost I thought. Im sure someone will be along shortly to remind us that if we dont like we can exit as they have enough operators.

The point for me is this, were way beyond 7 days, so Im trying to understand why all the trash is still stinking the place up. Is there any channel for some official announcement?

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i hear you, and yes the battle has been around for long - but for good reason.
But yea - i also have many TB’s of trash currently not cleaned at all.

Always having some trash around is just something you accept being a SNO. It’s expected overhead and a part of a healthy running network. Especially since customers aren’t paying for trash… it doesn’t worry me.

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Not when trash is 20% of my storage and been that way for a while, that worries me as that signals an unhealthy network where trash is not removed.

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You may certainly have a problem. However you said you looked around a bit before posting here: did you see that higher-trash recently has been intentional? They’ve been restoring it and letting updated bloom filters chew on in again.

I’m seeing trash folders as old as 2025-02-28… so to me that’s still healthy. If you have older ones today then if it was me I’d just delete them.

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Its all recent - trash was being cleared until about a month ago, been mounting since.

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What are the dates on the trash folders ?

Just logged in and checked a node - my oldest is 26-02-2025 - but that one is empty. The remaining trash folders have dates of 7 and 8th March. But that doe snot match what I am seeing in the amount of trash

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In your case, the trash folders will give you a better picture than dashboard. See if any folders are older than 7 days and that are still not empty.

No, none. Odd that there is nothing old in the trash, yet I have been seeing an increasing trash problem.

I have turned my log back on, restarted the node to force a filewalker, and see if there are any errors. Not expecting any as node has been pretty reliable

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