What can we do for Storj to get more customers

Money has to start flowing into the coffers before it’s too late. So what can we do?

Storj only focuses on big customers, and I just think that’s wrong. In Germany, we say every little bit counts. I’m disappointed with Storj Labs when it comes to sales. It’s not just the USA, there are other countries too, and hardly anyone knows about Storj. Here in Germany, it’s just sad. You can see how slowly my hard drives are filling up. Here in Germany, we are 10 years behind when it comes to digitalization. When I was a kid, I used to deliver newspapers and hand out ads. I had contact with various computer magazines to see if any article about Storj had ever been written. The answer was no. Why doesn’t Storj just start by changing the sales team and hiring proper representatives? They should get on a plane, visit every country, and advertise. These are just my thoughts that I wanted to share with you, but it’s probably too late anyway.

I get around $45 a month, sometimes more, sometimes less. I don’t rely on it since I have a steady job and can make the $45 in an hour. I love this project and have also learned a lot

Do you prefer to have 1,000 customers who pay $5 each, requires support with costs around $50/mo each or a one customer with $5,000 but with zero support costs?
I’m not extrapolating. I’m in a Customers Support team.
And as a person, who answers up to 120 of requests from $5 or lower customers per day, I would say - I will prefer the latter. Of course, I’ll be paid hourly as a contractor, but it’s not only too much burden for me personally, it’s also direct losses for the company.

Dealing with consumers is not an easy task, big numbers starts to play. I would say, to work with consumers we must need to have a separate company with a much greater team, and we must charge not for the used space, but for allocated, as any other consumer-oriented companies. You will pay for 2TB no matter what and even if you store only a one byte.

Honestly, they should have a policy only customer above X can contact support, under X will have to pay or point them to forum/documentation.

We don’t have it. Maybe it’s a way to go for your adventure :slight_smile:

I know Storj has a similar program now… but they kinda started promoting it late. I think most of the reason competitors grew faster is because they pushed reselling early and hard. Companies like gaining a few more $$$ from every deal by earning margin on whitelabel services with their logo on it. (e.g. deals like TrueNAS)

I still think Storj directly attracting a more premium portion of the market is a good idea. Compete on being “the best” for certain business needs, not just the cheapest. But… Storj salespeople could still go after large generic accounts… large reseller accounts.

Like approach every single Wasabi reseller and offer them a better deal. Even if $/TB pricing is the same you could sweeten-the-deal by rolling in features like Object Mount. If a reseller could make the same margin… but offer his customers the ability to mount their storage like a drive-letter (a feature people love) they may switch.

Just don’t start attracting $5 customers shopping on price. They aren’t worth it.

How about a referral program: offer X percentage of revenue in Y months consecutive AND they can trigger when they want that revenue (so they would attract customer that likely go big).

You can start this team with this proposal:

We already do so:





All what you need - register, download the app and create S3 creds for it. Provide these creds in the app. Done.

Perhaps, it’s an idea behind stacking? https://storjtoken.com/

The company is hardly known. They have a weak or non existent PR team. You can’t get major figures when you have minor visibility. I wouldn’t be surprised if storj has more sno’s than customers.

Is anyone here aware that Storj doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page? Maybe start there. Every other cloud provider has one. When I’m looking around for reputable companies in a certain field, Wikipedia is the first (and sometimes only) place I go. If they’re not on there they may as well not exist to me.

I’m curious - why does it cost $50/mo? Or is that more of an average, where some customers cost very little while others cost a lot? Can something be done to get that cost down?

You have pointed out yet another atrocious failure of this co’s corporate culture and marketing ineptitude.
Even this community didn’t know object mount was readily available, although not ‘readily’ at all. It was a contact sales option for months, and now it’s a drop down plug-in as Alexei says… that’s no way to itegrate a product for success, make it easy and obvious and default. Once the party is properly prepared, promote it and invite people.

The arrogance here could have been steered better, and even now I doubt lessons have been learned.

$5-$49.99 account no support, if anything that’s Alexei’s only job. And in the crisis as in now, even he’s not needed or a justified expense. But we love him anyways :wink:

2 cents,

Julio.

As a first measure they might consider to add a buy button to the homepage? Right now I can still only choose between “Start free Trial” and “Contact Sales”… :thinking:

It won’t pass Wikipedia’s notability criterion.

The support portal costs money, the support staff costs money. Each request costs money in average, some costs less, some costs more, but most of requests from the small customers. I don’t have exact numbers, so I took a previously suggested and rejected $50 minimum monthly billing as a target. I think the real number is pretty close.

We could introduce a threshold that could reduce these costs. For example, if a customer spends less than $50, they should seek support on the forum (or through an AI agent) rather than through the support portal. Unfortunately, this isn’t always possible, as some requests are quite sensitive, such as those related to billing.

Community tier pricing: no support.

Enterprise tier pricing: support.

Easy as that.

Perhaps it’s already happening:

I dont think theyre spending any money to get noticed; granted theyre backrupted now however when the token was like 1-3 dollars for an entire 5 months i think they just dumped on the holders and not do anything with the extra capital for PR. I blame that old CEO, dude seemed incompetent with his X account posts.

I can tell you from my experience (I do not work at Storj, but probably in a similar company, in that we provide IT services) and, yes, the small customers are a net loss.

Why? You would think that getting 5EUR/month for hosting a tiny website and a few GB of email on a shared hosting server would be profit, since there does not seem to be any expenses. We thought so too, it turned out we were wrong.

Now, a large company hosting hundreds of thousands of such websites can probably optimize itself, hire cheaper support staff and so on. I work for a small company. Our charges are basically for resources (CPU, RAM etc) and support (hourly) if the issue is not a clear defect on our end.

We have large (for us) customers and had some small ones.

The small customers are the worst. First of all, they pay 5EUR/month for the hosting and also generate a lot of tickets - forgot the password, does not understand how to connect to DirectAdmin, the site looks wrong (we do not offer website design services), the site got hacked because their website designer used an old version of Wordpress and never updated it.
You would say that’s OK, make them pay for support, the way others do. Sure, except the small customers will argue for an hour in an attempt to reduce a 15EUR support charge
(resetting an IP ban for too many incorrect password attempts or creating an email account that he could have done himself) to something less.
So, basically, the small customers generated too many tickets for the money they paid.

I am sure this is the same for Storj. A large customer will create a few tickets about integration or the API or because something is actually broken, but then would pay for it by storing a lot of data. A small customer will create tickets about stuff found in the documentation, like “what is a bucket?”, “I forgot my key, please give me my files”, “how can I make this have a drive letter?”, “how do I upload a file?”. All of these create costs for support and the customer then pays $5/month.
There are costs not just for storing the data, but for just supporting a customer with 1 byte of data. A customer with 1 byte of data probably costs Storj $1G/TB, a customer with 1PB probably costs $5/TB.

This does not work. From my experience, the small customers (at least some of them, and since there are a lot of them, then you are basically guaranteed to have a few) consider themselves large and important, but also lack understanding how this works. So, if a paying customer gets sent to a forum, he will complain that Storj is a crappy company that does not provide support for his very important issue. The complaints and reviews will look bad, because they won’t say if this is a guy with 1MB of data who cannot figure out how to download the file he uploaded or a large company with lots of data that Storj lost. Because the complaint will be something like “Storj won’t give me back my files”.

Is it possible to make profit from small customers? Yes, some companies do it, usually the larger ones, who have lots of employees (so, lower paid support people who reset passwords all day and then higher paid support people for actual issues) and are very efficient. A large company can also absorb some of the bad reviews, so it can also just tell the customer to go read the docs.

Storj service is unusual (compare to, say, email), it needs special understanding how to use it and a lot of people do not have it. Creating an account on a satellite and then using the space for backups is not that simple (I am not talking about us, the node operators). People will run into problems and ask for support. A large customer will have its own IT people who know how to use S3 or can read the docs to figure out how to use uplink. Any tickets they generate will be paid for by them storing 100TB or more on the network.